Memphis to join the big 12?

**chuckd4735** · 03-09-2009, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by ianoconnor

Yea, the Big 10 is just spread out more east-west as opposed to the Big 12 which is spread out north-south.

Originally Posted by Haverhill

It is too far east with Penn St.

Originally Posted by ianoconnor

So is the Big 12 too far south with Texas, or too far north with us? Because it's very close to the same distance.

Ames, Iowa to Lubbock, Texas...926.05 miles
Minneapolis, Minnesota to State College, Pennsylvania...991.40 miles

Those are the longest trips in the Big 12 and in the Big 10.

**gocubs2118** · 03-09-2009, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by chuckd4735

Penn State would lose money going to the Big East for the Big Ten.

Ya I forgot about the Big 10 network.

**jdoggivjc** · 03-09-2009, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by ce1

If the Big 10 ever adds and it isn't ND, my money would be on Kentucky or Tennessee, then Mizzou joins the SEC instead, and the Big 12 adds Utah.

Neither Kentucky nor Tennessee will ever be in the Big 10 for two reasons:

1. Both have a pretty good shindig going in the SEC - the move is lateral at best.

2. Neither school is a member of the AAU, and the only way the Big 10 will ever drop that requirement is if Notre Dame wanted into the conference.

The Big 10 has two requirements for membership - be located in a state that already is home to a Big 10 school or be in a state that is located next to such a state, and the school must be a member of the AAU (except for Notre Dame). The only schools that meet this requirement are:

1. Iowa State
2. Missouri
3. Nebraska
4. Rutgers
5. Pittsburgh
6. Syracuse

My money on joining the Big 10 would be either Pittsburgh, Rutgers, or Missouri.

**CycloneErik** · 03-09-2009, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Aaron Jacobs

If anything the Big East will probably split up and pick up Memphis and others to get two confrences of 10

Wouldn't this be back to something like the old Big East and Conference USA?

**Cydkar** · 03-09-2009, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Final42b

but if it was colorado or missouri to go, then wouldn't they fill that spot?

Yes, but they'd have to reevaluate the north/south thing. Maybe they'd end up in the north after all is said and done. That would really suck for ISU.

**CyAggie** · 03-09-2009, 08:16 AM

Sad fact is, based on various factors, if asked to identify what school would need to be dropped to adjust the B12, ISU would be named in a heartbeat by 95% of the fans or majority of voters.

Is it right, accurate or fair? No, it is just the reality of how we are perceived and why improving the program is so important.

**CyBobby** · 03-09-2009, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

I wouldn't mind being in the Big Ten. Hopefully Penn St goes into the Big East someday and we could take their place in the Big Ten.

One slight problem: THE LITTLE 11 DOESN'T WANT IOWA STATE!!!

The big 10 wants Notre Dame and Maybe Mizzou!!

If ISU gets dropped from the big 12 because of not being competitive the best plan would be to join the mountain west conference!!

**Bubbahotep** · 03-09-2009, 08:38 AM

Why doesn't the Big XII add four teams and create a super conference like the Big East in BB.

**GeronimusClone** · 03-09-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

I wouldn't mind being in the Big Ten. Hopefully Penn St goes into the Big East someday and we could take their place in the Big Ten.

Nothing like throwing up in your mouth to start the day. Thanks a heap, chet.

**Clones21** · 03-09-2009, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by CyBobby

One slight problem: THE LITTLE 11 DOESN'T WANT IOWA STATE!!!

The big 10 wants Notre Dame and Maybe Mizzou!!

If ISU gets dropped from the big 12 because of not being competitive the best plan would be to join the mountain west conference!!

I think we will stay where we are

**Cybone** · 03-09-2009, 08:53 AM

The BIG 12 NEEDS Baylor and Iowa State to help with the conference's graduation rate.

**jbhtexas** · 03-09-2009, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

Moving to the Big 10 would be great for ISU -- the higher total revenue and revenue sharing would give us a fighting chance instead of being set up for failure the way we are in the Big 12, but it will never happen.

Funny how all that revenue sharing hasn't exactly turned every Big Ten school into a football and MBB powerhouse. In fact, the Big Ten seems to have more crappy football and MBB teams than the Big 12 does. Yet, some here seem to think that ISU will magically become good if they move to the Big Ten.

I agree that ISU moving to the Big Ten willl likely never happen, thank goodness...hope I'm not wrong...

**Steve** · 03-09-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Bubbahotep

Why doesn't the Big XII add four teams and create a super conference like the Big East in BB.

The old Big 8 looked at all options for ideal conference sizes when they added the 4 SWC teams. 12 came out as the ideal number based on the composite of the factors that they considered. They looked at issues such as wanting an even number, preferably divisible by 4. Basketball might be one of the few sports that you could set up a decent conference schedule with 16 teams. Most other sports would leave you with playing a conference rival every 2 or 3 years at best. In that situation, you are almost better off with 2 separate 8 team conferences.

**Jeremy** · 03-09-2009, 11:28 AM

As long as some don't like the thought of the Texas teams in the Big XII, they are huge revenue makers for the conference and to most people are much more valuable to the conference than Iowa State is. With all the Texas teams we have in the conference, we're much more the outlier being so far North in comparison to the other groupings of teams (Colorado being even more isolated of course).

It all comes down to money. I would be surprised to see any changes right now, but if the conferences start to struggle financially, you'll see them either start to merge with each other or drastically change their makeup. Either way, I'd say we're much less "secure" in our position that any of the Texas teams are.