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**gocubs2118** · 03-30-2009, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

I won't speak for revenues. But personally as a fan I'd be interested in a conference built with Iowa teams. The two anchors would obviously be Iowa State and Iowa pulled from the Big 12 and Big 10. But then you also can bring in Drake and UNI from the MVC. Now a 4 team conference is obviously too small. Plus the issue of facilities comes into play. Drake football comes to mind. However they could work a deal with the city of West Des Moines to play at Valley High School's field. That is plenty big.

To make it happen I think you'd have to find 2 colleges and get the NCAA to move them up to D1. They'd have to have the facilities and meet the conditions. Dubuque has an arena that will seat around 5,500. Souix City has an arena that seats 10,000.

Other than leasing these venues the colleges would have to make sure their outdoor facilities are up to snuff. Baseball, softball, and soccer fields are prime examples.

I'm not sure how good it would be for the big schools, but I'd sure enjoy it. It would be great for the state. Plus you'd always have an Iowa school in the NCAA tournament. But how do you get Iowa and ISU in a conference with Briar Cliff and the University of Dubuque? Offer them a higher percentage of revenues for the first decade or something. Plus they are state schools so we could force UNI, ISU, and the U of I to do it.

I could see the Iowa Sports Channel. You could get a bunch of D2, NAIA, and D3 schools to have their games broadcast on it as well. Especially with Indian Hills JC in the mix I could see a lot of interest and revenues in something like that. Even though I love it as a fan. It will never happen.

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**brentblaze** · 03-30-2009, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

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I said it from a fan of Iowa sports perspective only.

**cstrunk** · 03-30-2009, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

I said it from a fan of Iowa sports perspective only.

Iowa sports only, but Iowa sports only go so far... need influence from the real world.

**Haverhill** · 03-30-2009, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by cstrunk

Iowa sports only, but Iowa sports only go so far... need influence from the real world.

There is a world outside of Iowa??? I thought Ames was the pinnacle of society.... I am absolutely shocked.

**brentblaze** · 03-30-2009, 10:47 PM

I'm sure its just the amount of influence in my thoughts from the way they doing things in Europe. But its certainly not dumb.. just a different way of thinking. But then again I'd better not go there either. Seems to be an argument that gets people yelling at me as well.

**Haverhill** · 03-30-2009, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

I'm sure its just the amount of influence in my thoughts from the way they doing things in Europe. But its certainly not dumb.. just a different way of thinking. But then again I'd better not go there either. Seems to be an argument that gets people yelling at me as well.

Huh???

**brentblaze** · 03-30-2009, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

Huh???

I'll give you an example. In France they have ProA, ProB, NM1, NM2, and NM3 (so 5 divisions of basketball). Antibes is a team on the southern coast of France. Antibes was a great team in ProA in the past. But they had financial problems and winning problems as well. They sunk as low as NM1 last year, but they got back on track and are now in ProB. They also happened to sign Jeff Horner who is really sucking it big time for them averaging just 5.5 ppg and 2.5 apg. He was their big signing and was supposed get them to ProA.

Anways I probably shouldn't even have explained. Anytime I say France does anything better than the United States I get flamed and my picture burned along with Bill Maher.

But if this was France, Iowa State basketball would probably be demoted to the Missouri Valley Conference or something.

**Haverhill** · 03-30-2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

I'll give you an example. In France they have ProA, ProB, NM1, NM2, and NM3 (so 5 divisions of basketball). Antibes is a team on the southern coast of France. Antibes was a great team in ProA in the past. But they had financial problems and winning problems as well. They sunk as low as NM1 last year, but they got back on track and are now in ProB. They also happened to sign Jeff Horner who is really sucking it big time for them averaging just 5.5 ppg and 2.5 apg. He was their big signing and was supposed get them to ProA.

Anways I probably shouldn't even have explained. Anytime I say France does anything better than the United States I get flamed and my picture burned along with Bill Maher.

But if this was France, Iowa State basketball would probably be demoted to the Missouri Valley Conference or something.

Sorry, I'm not comprehending a word you are saying.

**brentblaze** · 03-30-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

Sorry, I'm not comprehending a word you are saying.

All I'm saying is that my train of thought that suggested an Iowa Conference was just simply a different way of thinking similar to how they do it internationally. Not dumb... just different.

**kingcy** · 03-30-2009, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

I said it from a fan of Iowa sports perspective only.

That doesnt make it any better.

**Haverhill** · 03-30-2009, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

All I'm saying is that my train of thought that suggested an Iowa Conference was just simply a different way of thinking similar to how they do it internationally. Not dumb... just different.

Also less competitive, less profitable, and less fun to watch. It is fun watching Dubuque come in for a exhibition game at the beginning of the year but I'll prefer going up against Missouri and Nebraska over Cornell and Simpson.

**brentblaze** · 03-30-2009, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Haverhill

Also less competitive, less profitable, and less fun to watch. It is fun watching Dubuque come in for a exhibition game at the beginning of the year but I'll prefer going up against Missouri and Nebraska over Cornell and Simpson.

The main difference would be those (Missouri, Nebraska) schools would be the non conference schedule and the Iowa D1 schools would play the conference schedule and tournament. At least give me more credit than saying Cornell or Simpson should be D1. I said cities with a decent population and with an arena. I only took offense because it was simply a concept I borrowed from international basketball. And I don't think the rest of the world is dumber for using a different method.

**kingcy** · 03-30-2009, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

At least give me more credit than saying Cornell or Simpson should be D1.

Why should you get credit for that? Drake has had some success in D1, they cannot even get fans to go to their games and they are in the heart of Des Moines. Do you think Simpson would draw more fans if they were D1? I doubt it.

**Haverhill** · 03-30-2009, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by brentblaze

The main difference would be those (Missouri, Nebraska) schools would be the non conference schedule and the Iowa D1 schools would play the conference schedule and tournament. At least give me more credit than saying Cornell or Simpson should be D1. I said cities with a decent population and with an arena. I only took offense because it was simply a concept I borrowed from international basketball. And I don't think the rest of the world is dumber for using a different method.

Why would Nebraska or Missouri schedule games with the Iowa State Cyclones hailing out of the Iowa conference??

**brentblaze** · 03-30-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by kingcy

Why should you get credit for that? Drake has had some success in D1, they cannot even get fans to go to their games and they are in the heart of Des Moines. Do you think Simpson would draw more fans if they were D1? I doubt it.

I'm pretty sure I was at the Knapp Center at a full capacity game as Drake spanked Iowa last season. That seems to happen at in state games.