Expansion of NCAA tournament

**Cydkar** · 03-10-2009, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by GeronimusClone

You're killing me, but in respect to your daughter, I'll refrain.

She's 10. That help?

**Clone_12** · 03-10-2009, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by clintr

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Now the BCS in football, that needs to be fixed!

Bingo...knowing the NCAA however...the NCAA Tourney will be expanded to 128 before football ever gets a playoff system.

**Cycofan1** · 03-10-2009, 04:08 PM

does that mean Iowa State will make a tournament

**coachdags** · 03-10-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by cyhiphopp

Do we realy want to see the top 4 teams from BCS Major conferences beating up on more little guys? There are really good teams who do not excel in conference play who can go on a tear and win in the tourney.

It's all up to balance ,and I cetainly do not have the answers....

but I would rather watch Creigthon or Illinois State play this year than the 8 place Big Ten team in Northwestern....?

**GeronimusClone** · 03-10-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cydkar

She's 10. That help?

Yeah, now it's completely unfunny. Should have led with that.

**cybsball20** · 03-10-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Clone_12

Bingo...knowing the NCAA however...the NCAA Tourney will be expanded to 128 before football ever gets a playoff system.

and how hypocritical would that be. Make the season longer for the sport that misses more class than any, a sport that overlaps semesters, but we can't have our football players missing any more classes...

**PGreen ISU '92** · 03-10-2009, 04:10 PM

The time has definitely come to expand the field to 128. NFL Football – 12 of the 32 teams make the playoffs 37.5%; Major League Baseball – 8 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 26.7%; NBA Basketball 16 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 53.3%; NHL Hockey – 16 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 53.3%. There are 341 NCAA Division I Basketball Teams. Currently only 65 make the NCAA Tournament which is 19.1%. Expanding the field to 128 still only means that 37.5% make the playoffs. That still leaves a lower percentage than all sports other than Major League Baseball. I would definitely be in favor of expanding the field if the NIT, College Basketball Invitational (CBI), and the CollegeInsider.com Tournament were disbanded.

**Clone_12** · 03-10-2009, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

and how hypocritical would that be. Make the season longer for the sport that misses more class than any, a sport that overlaps semesters, but we can't have our football players missing any more classes...

Yeah...plus college football teams can't afford to be playing more games than they already are, but apparently it's ok for them to have a 40day layoff before the national title game?

**isunorth** · 03-10-2009, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by coachdags

I agree with this....

I personally would like to see them tweak it the other way....
Allow no more than 4 teams from BCS Conferences, and give the little guy more of a chance, to me that is where the excitement is....

I see your point on the little guys, but only 4 teams from a BCS conference is not enough. Look at the Big East this year. I believe there were times this season where they had 4 teams in the top 10.

**Jeremy** · 03-10-2009, 04:11 PM

I agree that you have to draw the line somewhere and that is why I don't think you can legitimately make a case that it increases the competition or fun to expand the field beyond it's current makeup.

If you add teams, do you add BCS teams or more mid majors? Why should either of those get the upper hand over the other?

Would you have more matchups of conference opponents? If so, why? That's what the conference games and tournaments are for.

Would you allow teams with sub-.500 records in to the dance? If so, why? How and why should they get in even with tough schedules when very high above-.500 record teams are still left out because of conference affiliation?

Who says that more above .500 mid majors would be worse or better than more sub .500 BCS conference teams?

I just don't see how you can do any better than what we have right now, unless it comes with the play in game scenario - even that is a crap-shoot.

**Jeremy** · 03-10-2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by isunorth

I see your point on the little guys, but only 4 teams from a BCS conference is not enough. Look at the Big East this year. I believe there were times this season where they had 4 teams in the top 10.

I agree, but you have to have a rule somewhere. Just because they're better than most conferences this year, doesn't mean you can have a different limit for them than say the Big Ten that really only deserves a couple teams most years.

**GeronimusClone** · 03-10-2009, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by PGreen ISU '92

The time has definitely come to expand the field to 128. NFL Football – 12 of the 32 teams make the playoffs 37.5%; Major League Baseball – 8 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 26.7%; NBA Basketball 16 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 53.3%; NHL Hockey – 16 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 53.3%. There are 341 NCAA Division I Basketball Teams. Currently only 65 make the NCAA Tournament which is 19.1%. Expanding the field to 128 still only means that 37.5% make the playoffs. That still leaves a lower percentage than all sports other than Major League Baseball. I would definitely be in favor of expanding the field if the NIT, College Basketball Invitational (CBI), and the CollegeInsider.com Tournament were disbanded.

And professional sports and college should be statistically in line?

**Cydkar** · 03-10-2009, 04:13 PM

The fact that there are so many NCAA bball teams is precisely why the field should remain @ 68. Way to many mediocre and crappy teams among the 341. The NFL only has a few crappy teams and the rest are very close except for the elite.

**Clone_12** · 03-10-2009, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by PGreen ISU '92

The time has definitely come to expand the field to 128. NFL Football – 12 of the 32 teams make the playoffs 37.5%; Major League Baseball – 8 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 26.7%; NBA Basketball 16 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 53.3%; NHL Hockey – 16 of the 30 teams make the playoffs 53.3%. There are 341 NCAA Division I Basketball Teams. Currently only 65 make the NCAA Tournament which is 19.1%. Expanding the field to 128 still only means that 37.5% make the playoffs. That still leaves a lower percentage than all sports other than Major League Baseball. I would definitely be in favor of expanding the field if the NIT, College Basketball Invitational (CBI), and the CollegeInsider.com Tournament were disbanded.

Why? The NCAA Tourney is the best thing college athletics has going for it...why change it? If anything the NBA should be making it more difficult to make the playoffs, and College Football should have less bowl games...but once again, that would mean less $$$, and I don't see them changing that...do we really need to watch the Cavs or Celtics play a best of seven game series against the Bucks in the first round??? Or watch a 6-6 team from the ACC play a 7-5 team from the Mountain West?