Brackins tonight

**Wesley** · 03-12-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by isunorth

There are hundreds of examples of outstanding college players that never do anything in the NBA. I just don't think Craig's undersized to be an effective 4 man in the NBA and he's way to slow to play 3. Why am I "baiting people into attacking" me by stating an opinion? I love Brackins as much as the next guy but his success at ISU is no indicator of future results in the NBA.

He will make millions in the NBA if he keeps shooting.

**cybsball20** · 03-13-2009, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Wesley

I think he needs to stay and practice on his outlet passes when double teamed.

The outlet passes would be ALOT easier if his teammates had any clue about finding open spaces or making cuts to get open. Unfortunately, most of them just stand around and expect Craig to do it all.

**cycloneworld** · 03-13-2009, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

That was the first one that popped into my head since I saw a highlight of his the other day. I'm sure I could name ALOT if I really looked into it... The NBA, especially at the 4 position is a much more open game, strentgh doesn't come into play as much.

Strength isn't that big of a deal at the 4? Dwight Howard, Amare Stoudamire, Carlos Boozer, Michael Beasley, Elton Brand, Nick Collison, Tim Duncan, Glen Davis, Al Harrington, Antawn Jamison, Kenyan Martin, Zach Randolph, and Ben Wallace all play the 4. And that is just off the top of my head.

I'd say strength at the 4 is the rule, not the exception. Sure there are guys that can shine without a ton of strength (Garnett, Bosh, etc.) but there are more "strength" guys than "finesse" guys at the 4.

And right now, Brackins doesn't have a consistent outside shot like these guys do.

**ISUFan22** · 03-13-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

The outlet passes would be ALOT easier if his teammates had any clue about finding open spaces or making cuts to get open. Unfortunately, most of them just stand around and expect Craig to do it all.

This.

Craig is an eagle soaring with turkeys at this point.

**snowcraig2.0** · 03-13-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

The outlet passes would be ALOT easier if his teammates had any clue about finding open spaces or making cuts to get open. Unfortunately, most of them just stand around and expect Craig to do it all.

It's a combination, CB isn't very good at passing out of the double, and our team isn't very good at moving without the ball.

**CycloneWarrior** · 03-13-2009, 10:06 AM

craig is going to be 22 in october, i bet he leaves this year, 22 is getting old for a rookie now a days

**snowcraig2.0** · 03-13-2009, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

Strength isn't that big of a deal at the 4? Dwight Howard, Amare Stoudamire, Carlos Boozer, Michael Beasley, Elton Brand, Nick Collison, Tim Duncan, Glen Davis, Al Harrington, Antawn Jamison, Kenyan Martin, Zach Randolph, and Ben Wallace all play the 4. And that is just off the top of my head.

I'd say strength at the 4 is the rule, not the exception. Sure there are guys that can shine without a ton of strength (Garnett, Bosh, etc.) but there are more "strength" guys than "finesse" guys at the 4.

And right now, Brackins doesn't have a consistent outside shot like these guys do.

To be fair, Howard plays the 5.

But in general your point is correct. And I guarantee Garnett is much, much stronger than people think, Bosh as well. Skinny does not always equal weak.