End of the year analysis: Player by Player

**isucyfan** · 03-12-2009, 11:32 AM

I also would disagree with the Hamilton assessment. Considering where he started, he could be much more than a 5/5 guy.

He has a good midrange jumper already, and if he develops just one reliable post move, he'll be fine. He will get most of his points on the offensive glass.

**BigBake** · 03-12-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Clone5

I will label Wes Eikmeier's performance this year whatever I want. Did I ever say he wouldn't develop? Relax and work on your reading comprehension.

Yup, you have every right to label him a bust and I have every right to tell you that you are full of ****.

**Clone5** · 03-12-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by isucyfan

I also would disagree with the Hamilton assessment. Considering where he started, he could be much more than a 5/5 guy.

He has a good midrange jumper already, and if he develops just one reliable post move, he'll be fine. He will get most of his points on the offensive glass.

I think Ham (as with the rest of our post players) would really benefit from having a point guard that could get him the ball in a good position. He's good at moving without the ball and if we had a guard who could penetrate and dish I could see him being a lot more effective. 5/5 is probably slightly low for next year, especially if Brackins leaves.

**BigBake** · 03-12-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Clone5

I will label Wes Eikmeier's performance this year whatever I want. Did I ever say he wouldn't develop? Relax and work on your reading comprehension.

And I never said you didn't think he would develop. Please work on your reading comprehension before calling someone else out.

I was clearly stating my opinion and stressing I want to see him develop.

**isucyfan** · 03-12-2009, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Clone5

I think Ham (as with the rest of our post players) would really benefit from having a point guard that could get him the ball in a good position. He's good at moving without the ball and if we had a guard who could penetrate and dish I could see him being a lot more effective. 5/5 is probably slightly low for next year, especially if Brackins leaves.

As a point of reference, Jared Homan averaged 3.6/3.4 as a frosh, 7.5/6.4 as a soph, 11.1/6.3 as a junior, and 13.6/8.7 as a senior.

I can see Hamilton developing similarly.

**Clone5** · 03-12-2009, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by BigBake

And I never said you didn't think he would develop. Please work on your reading comprehension before calling someone else out.

I was clearly stating my opinion and stressing I want to see him develop.

Your post was in response to mine and it seemed like you were implying it. That's a lot different from you not being able to understand I called Eik's year a bust and not his career.

**Clone5** · 03-12-2009, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by isucyfan

As a point of reference, Jared Homan averaged 3.6/3.4 as a frosh, 7.5/6.4 as a soph, 11.1/6.3 as a junior, and 13.6/8.7 as a senior.

I can see Hamilton developing similarly.

I hope you're right.

**BigBake** · 03-12-2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Clone5

Your post was in response to mine and it seemed like you were implying it. That's a lot different from you not being able to understand I called Eik's year a bust and not his career.

And I say calling relatively unheralded recruits freshmen year a "bust" is incorrect.

Like I said, remove that first sentence or rephrase it and I'm with you.

**Clone5** · 03-12-2009, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by BigBake

And I say calling relatively unheralded recruits freshmen year a "bust" is incorrect.

Like I said, remove that first sentence or rephrase it and I'm with you.

How would you label his year?

**BigBake** · 03-12-2009, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Clone5

How would you label his year?

In the context of our season...average for a mid level talent wise Freshmen.

I saw a few glimpses of things I like but they were few and far between due to injury/illness. I think the Big 12 hit him like a brick wall and he'll either overcome or fade out and we won't see him again. Personally I think he has a good chance at getting over it and becoming a decent role player for us.

My idea of a "bust" is that larger than life center Morgan brought in that never ever saw the court. I'll be darned if I can remember his name but he was compareable in size to Tractor Traylor for Michigan.

**cyclonepower** · 03-12-2009, 12:02 PM

my assessment on Wes is the same as it was at the beginning of the season...not sure why people thought he would come in right away and play a significant role

**clone52** · 03-12-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

I agree with most except that Boozer should've played more. His only real offering was rebounding. I'll get ripped for saying this, but he's not very fast on his feet, and his defense is meh at best. He sticks out because he's a fan favorite and everyone wants to see him do well. Both he and Haluska were offensive liabilities, but Haluska was a lock down defender.

In Coach Mac's words last night:
"Sean, you couldn't guard your lunch in high school, now you're guarding the opponent's best player each time on the floor."

Boozer improved his defense tremendously this year. I think his playing time was about right, though. If he keeps making strides for us like he did this year, he will be an important player for us.

Next year, here's how I see things.

Garett, Buckley, Colvin, Steiger and Eikmeier will see the time at the 1 and 2 spots. Somebody probably sees very limited minutes there. Garett will improve, but will see his playing time decrease. Buckley picked it up at the end of the year and will see more minutes, probably like we've seen the last few games.

Gilstrap will man the 3. Boozer will give him some rest.

Brackins, Ham, VDB in the post. Maybe Gilstrap plays some PF as well. Ham should improve his strength which will let him get open more and make more of those post moves. At some point, he's going to be a stud and make a living playing professionally. His limitations are areas which are easy to improve. Strength. Maybe a little footwork. He has the hands, he has the smarts.

**Knownothing** · 03-12-2009, 12:14 PM

I think I heard a stat watching last nights game where VanderBeeken hit 22 of his last 31 3 pointers. That is freakin lighting it up if I heard that right.

**Clone_12** · 03-12-2009, 12:21 PM

The whole team needs to improve from a strength standpoint...Buckley (as a freshman) is stronger with the ball than anyone on the team...added strength will go a long way towards improving our rebounding as a team, and improving player consitancy (finishing when around the hoop; not losing the ball anytime an opponent bumps into our guy; holding their own when an opposing player tries to establish position).

Team athleticism and more guys with the ability to create their own shot, and shots for others is the other thing that needs addressed...and I feel as though McDermott has done a good job of addressing this need with Colvin and Gilstrap...also Pomlee should help downlow from a strength and athleticism standpoint.

**Ficklone02** · 03-12-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by isucyfan

As a point of reference, Jared Homan averaged 3.6/3.4 as a frosh, 7.5/6.4 as a soph, 11.1/6.3 as a junior, and 13.6/8.7 as a senior.

I can see Hamilton developing similarly.

Although Homan was a much better athlete than JH is.