Maybe McD needs to have a hard look at his staff?

**Enginerd** · 03-14-2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

He and his staff are the right men for the job - it's just not an overnight job in Ames. They have some great kids coming in and even better possibly on the line. Just learn to relax a bit and you'll thank them in a couple more years.

"I agree"

-2006

**cyclonenum1** · 03-14-2009, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremy

He and his staff are the right men for the job - it's just not an overnight job in Ames. They have some great kids coming in and even better possibly on the line. Just learn to relax a bit and you'll thank them in a couple more years.

What evidence do you see that makes you think they are "the right men for the job"?

I think we all know it is not an "overnight" job but how long do you think it should take at ISU...4 years, 8 years, 12 years...what is your idea of a reasonable time frame?

I think the ISU fan base is one of the most patient, understanding, and least demanding in all of major college sports.

**cyclonenum1** · 03-14-2009, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by intrepid27

Coach Paul Roades made an interesting commment about recruiting. He said its not the kids that get away that hurt you. Its the ones you get that don't pan out (or stay). I think this is what's hurting MBB program right now. Kids that don't pan out or stay. Donson, Taylor, Johnson, etc, ................long list.

This is exactly right.

I think GM can be given credit for two very good players at ISU...WJ and CB. Both of those kids are very talented and made very solid contributions to ISU.

Past that, there is a laundry list of kids that were very short-timers at ISU or appear not to be talented enough to contribute at the Big 12 level.

So he has gotten a couple of kids that are all Big 12 caliber but he really hasn't surrounded them with the next level of guys that can be solid contributors at the Big 12 level but are never going to be considered top tier Big 12 players.

We seem to have had a bunch of guys that appear to just not be at the Big 12 level...some have left and some are sitting on our bench...and the real problem...some of them actually played this year.

I understand that we have some kids that are supposed to be good coming in...let's wait and see before we put the crowns on their heads. I also understand that we have some kids on the roster we hope will "develop"...unfortunately, in a league like the Big 12 if you have too many projects on the roster you will be a doormat.

**PolkCityClone** · 03-14-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by cloneaholic

1. Jeff knows his X's and O's. I think that's one reason why we always have such a good game plan coming into each game. Obviously, Mac decides the game plan, but Jeff is a big contributor. We just don't have enough great athletes right now to sustain the game plan, and I think that's why we have troubles maintaining the lead during the last 10 minutes of the games. The game plan gives you a chance to win, but you have to have athletes to finish the deal.

2. Jeff is also a player's coach. He treats the players with respect and he's always positive. If you surveyed the players, I bet you'd get a very positive evaluation.

3. Jeff has a wonderful relationship with other departments throughout the university. He has integrity and that gives credibility to the whole staff.

4. Finally, Jeff is such a gentleman that the parents respond very well to him. They know he's genuine and they know they can trust him to always look out for their son's welfare.

Coach Rutter - welcome aboard! Maybe you need a little humility

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**MNclone** · 03-14-2009, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

This is exactly right.

I think GM can be given credit for two very good players at ISU...WJ and CB. Both of those kids are very talented and made very solid contributions to ISU.

Past that, there is a laundry list of kids that were very short-timers at ISU or appear not to be talented enough to contribute at the Big 12 level.

So he has gotten a couple of kids that are all Big 12 caliber but he really hasn't surrounded them with the next level of guys that can be solid contributors at the Big 12 level but are never going to be considered top tier Big 12 players.

We seem to have had a bunch of guys that appear to just not be at the Big 12 level...some have left and some are sitting on our bench...and the real problem...some of them actually played this year.

I understand that we have some kids that are supposed to be good coming in...let's wait and see before we put the crowns on their heads. I also understand that we have some kids on the roster we hope will "develop"...unfortunately, in a league like the Big 12 if you have too many projects on the roster you will be a doormat.

I would add Mike Taylor to the list as well. He is playing in the NBA right now. It is tough to say that the freshmen aren't able to play at the Big XII level though. You can't expect too many first year players to come in and make a splash every year. Give them some time to develop. They are what we need a couple years down the road to compliment our star players.

**Wesley** · 03-14-2009, 01:12 PM

We need more attitude.

**Balrog** · 03-14-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by A-town Cy

Hire a full time Strength and Conditioning coach for the new basketball facility....

I would agree that we appear to be a team of boys playing basketball, against teams comprised of men.
I attended a game early in the season, before the Big XII season began, with SeattleClone, and I was very surprised with the apparent disparity in physical development of the players.
We were so small and just looked liked we couldn't fight our way out of a paper bag.
I think SeattleClone would remember that we talked about it at the time.
I thought back to the games I had seen in Hilton with Fizer, Pratt, Tinsley, Blalock, Horton, Stinson, Cato, ....... heck, even little J.C. Holliway was cut and could run all day and night.
I do realize some of the aforementioned players were older than the current players, ...... but nonetheless I was really taken aback when I saw the team early in the season, compared to what I remember, with regard to our physical stature.

Go Cyclones

**Landshark** · 03-14-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by A-town Cy

Hire a full time Strength and Conditioning coach for the new basketball facility....

AMEN!!!

**ISU4ME** · 03-14-2009, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone42

I think McDermott needs to use the off-season to take a hard look at his staff, and maybe make some changes. Perhaps bring in a top-notch recruiter, someone like Wayne Morgan was to Eustachy. Morgan wasn't a good head coach, but he was a really, really good recruiter.

Does anyone else think if MeDermott read this post he would say - "I think Cyclonefanatic needs to replace Cyclone42 with someone who knows a little more about basketball. Maybe an up and comer in 2nd grade."

**Rick** · 03-14-2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Wesley

We need more attitude.

NOT ON THIS SITE WE DONT!

**Rick** · 03-14-2009, 03:46 PM

Didnt GMAC say after the last game that he underestimated the caliber of player needed in the BXII? Maybe he was a little slow on the uptake but I think with what he has coming in we will be in better shape next year and years to come.

**kingcy** · 03-14-2009, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Didnt GMAC say after the last game that he underestimated the caliber of player needed in the BXII? Maybe he was a little slow on the uptake but I think with what he has coming in we will be in better shape next year and years to come.

He said that before the start of the season last year. He is working on getting the talent to Ames. That is one reason he is got one JUCO and going after another.

**Aclone** · 03-14-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Didnt GMAC say after the last game that he underestimated the caliber of player needed in the BXII?

Actually, that's not what he said. What he said after (or during) his first year was that his biggest adjustment to the Big XII was realizing that sheer athleticism meant more than coaching.

And truth be told, this team would have been far more athletic had WJ stuck around.

Maybe he was a little slow on the uptake but I think with what he has coming in we will be in better shape next year and years to come.

Does look like there's a drastic upgrade, doesn't it?

Right now I'm thinking that the 2010 Class (which will likely have it's final commits over the next nine months) will be laying the groundwork for the future of the program. Adding one or two more players the level of Colvin and Gilstrap to Kadma and Dykstra, and we're getting to where everyone wants us to be.

**ETL2424** · 03-15-2009, 12:36 AM

Exactly what does Erik Crawford do for the program?? I don't see him listed as an assistant, and he can't be a third-year graduate assistant. All I see him do is walk around sluggishly with a clipboard near the scorers table during time-outs. Hopefully he's not getting paid to be lethargic. He doesn't seem to bring much to the table or be a factor.

**CrossCyed** · 03-15-2009, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by ETL2424

Exactly what does Erik Crawford do for the program?? I don't see him listed as an assistant, and he can't be a third-year graduate assistant. All I see him do is walk around sluggishly with a clipboard near the scorers table during time-outs. Hopefully he's not getting paid to be lethargic. He doesn't seem to bring much to the table or be a factor.

His intensity when I saw him at West HyVee was lacking as well.