Maybe McD needs to have a hard look at his staff?

**IcSyU** · 03-15-2009, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by ETL2424

Exactly what does Erik Crawford do for the program?? I don't see him listed as an assistant, and he can't be a third-year graduate assistant. All I see him do is walk around sluggishly with a clipboard near the scorers table during time-outs. Hopefully he's not getting paid to be lethargic. He doesn't seem to bring much to the table or be a factor.

I believe he's the assistant director of basketball operations but I could be wrong...

If true, I have no idea what that means.

**ISU4ME** · 03-15-2009, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

I believe he's the assistant director of basketball operations but I could be wrong...

If true, I have no idea what that means.

Ron Smith is the Head of Basketball Operations. Erik is the "Assistant" Head of Basketball Operations.

**CrossCyed** · 03-15-2009, 12:53 AM

Ops guys generally help take care of stuff like team travel.

**IcSyU** · 03-15-2009, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

I believe he's the assistant director of basketball operations but I could be wrong...

If true, I have no idea what that means.

Originally Posted by ISU4ME

Ron Smith is the Head of Basketball Operations.

**ETL2424** · 03-15-2009, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by CrossCyed

His intensity when I saw him at West HyVee was lacking as well.

HAHAHA!!!

**cyismydog** · 03-15-2009, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by cloneaholic

Mac has built an excellent staff. Jeff Rutter is as good as they come, folks.

Coach Rutter is one of the nicest guys I've ever met. He constantly helps me with any questions I have, and knows the game really well. He's a great teacher, and gets along with everyone.

**mwoodley13** · 03-15-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by ETL2424

Exactly what does Erik Crawford do for the program?? I don't see him listed as an assistant, and he can't be a third-year graduate assistant. All I see him do is walk around sluggishly with a clipboard near the scorers table during time-outs. Hopefully he's not getting paid to be lethargic. He doesn't seem to bring much to the table or be a factor.

How could you possibly know this? Every coaching staff I've seen has guys that don't really do much during games (in the fans' physical view), but it doesn't mean they don't have some important role.

**cyco2000** · 03-15-2009, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

Actually, that's not what he said. What he said after (or during) his first year was that his biggest adjustment to the Big XII was realizing that sheer athleticism meant more than coaching.

And truth be told, this team would have been far more athletic had WJ stuck around.

Does look like there's a drastic upgrade, doesn't it?

Right now I'm thinking that the 2010 Class (which will likely have it's final commits over the next nine months) will be laying the groundwork for the future of the program. Adding one or two more players the level of Colvin and Gilstrap to Kadma and Dykstra, and we're getting to where everyone wants us to be.

I'm hoping you're right. But, 4 years to "lay the groundwork"??? I thought these 4 years have been "laying the foundation" and we still haven't even "laid the groundwork"?? Holy crap, how long before we have a building to occupy?

When the 2010 class gets here, we'll hear about how awesome they are, but we'll have to wait for them to develop or wait for them to learn the system.

What is your timeline for McDermott? How many years before you say he's had enough time to get it right? 6 years? 8 years? 5 years? FYI--I'm saying 4 years. How many BCS coaches have been successful at consistently making the NCAA tourney after 4 seasons of no NCAA tourney?

**isugcs** · 03-15-2009, 04:56 PM

IMO, if you look back at the two previous ISU coaches you had LE who did a good job defending and putting together game plans. This equated to B12 championships by fully utilizing the talent he had. The drawback was that recruiting was not good and it reared its ugly head his last year. WM recruited well, but there was no game plan, it was shear reliance on player ability. I believe GMac will do well because he's not excellent, but balanced in both recruiting and game planning and coaching. It's just he doesn't have the record to back it up. I think it will come, I am satisfied at this point.

Before I change my mind, it has to be proven to me that utilizing the recruits he has as upperclassmen and continuing to coach and develop players as he's done with CB, and continue to put together solid game plans, does not equate to winning basketball. In two years when DG, Lucca, Boozer, and others are seniors with quality players around them we should know if it works. If we continue to suffer from player attrition then I'll still be undecided.

**cyclonenum1** · 03-16-2009, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by ISU4ME

Ron Smith is the Head of Basketball Operations. Erik is the "Assistant" Head of Basketball Operations.

This got me to thinking...what are the chances that this "Erik" is A.K.A. "kg-cyclone"???? Very interesting. Very Interesting.

**cyclonenum1** · 03-16-2009, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by isugcs

IMO, if you look back at the two previous ISU coaches you had LE who did a good job defending and putting together game plans. This equated to B12 championships by fully utilizing the talent he had. The drawback was that recruiting was not good and it reared its ugly head his last year. WM recruited well, but there was no game plan, it was shear reliance on player ability. I believe GMac will do well because he's not excellent, but balanced in both recruiting and game planning and coaching. It's just he doesn't have the record to back it up. I think it will come, I am satisfied at this point.

Before I change my mind, it has to be proven to me that utilizing the recruits he has as upperclassmen and continuing to coach and develop players as he's done with CB, and continue to put together solid game plans, does not equate to winning basketball. In two years when DG, Lucca, Boozer, and others are seniors with quality players around them we should know if it works. If we continue to suffer from player attrition then I'll still be undecided.

I fail to see how LE's recruiting reared its head last year...he has been gone for quite a while now.

If GM is so solid at game planning and coaching...then why no upsets in 3 years at the helm?

You are who your record says you are. (stolen from Bill Parcells)

In case you haven't figured it out...we play in the Big 12...not the MVC...the power conferences are not dominated by teams loaded with seniors that were projects that developed and "panned out". That is what you do in the mid major conferences...not the Big 12. In the Big 12 you have to have guys that are looking to go pro after 1, 2, or 3 years or you just don't have the right talent level to adequately compete.

**kg-cyclone** · 03-16-2009, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

This got me to thinking...what are the chances that this "Erik" is A.K.A. "kg-cyclone"???? Very interesting. Very Interesting.

LOL, good try...but not even close.

Crawf is a hell of a guy; I'm actually surprised we've been able to keep him this long.

**BigBake** · 03-16-2009, 09:16 AM

[quote=cyclonenum1;953485]I fail to see how LE's recruiting reared its head last year...he has been gone for quite a while now.
/quote]

Read his post again....wait for it....oh yeah...you completely misunderstood him. He said "LE's last year" not "this last year".

**BigBake** · 03-16-2009, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

What evidence do you see that makes you think they are "the right men for the job"?

I think we all know it is not an "overnight" job but how long do you think it should take at ISU...4 years, 8 years, 12 years...what is your idea of a reasonable time frame?

I think the ISU fan base is one of the most patient, understanding, and least demanding in all of major college sports.

So what do we do then? You constantly whine but offer no solutions.