Can we trade DG for Ezell or Lacey?

**DumbFan** · 03-29-2009, 11:54 AM

I am obviously not serious, well I don't think I am, but they handled the ball really well, slashed to the hoop, and made some 3's. Both played outstanding games. This isn't new, but the women's success rallied around guard play last night. They had no inside game and yet they won. The men's team lack abilities in the guard position and I hope Colvin can help redefine our team. Imagine how much better the men would be if we had a Ty Lawson or even a J.T. Tiller to complement Brackins. Someone to create for themselves and others. Great guards are essential for successful teams and I just don't know if ISU is setting themselves up too well beyond Colvin. Especially with the recent transfers and Kadima checking out. I am worried about the direction of the team in regards to the 1 and 2. Thoughts?

**tigershoops31** · 03-29-2009, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by DumbFan

I am obviously not serious, well I don't think I am, but they handled the ball really well, slashed to the hoop, and made some 3's. Both played outstanding games. This isn't new, but the women's success rallied around guard play last night. They had no inside game and yet they won. The men's team lack abilities in the guard position and I hope Colvin can help redefine our team. Imagine how much better the men would be if we had a Ty Lawson or even a J.T. Tiller to complement Brackins. Someone to create for themselves and others. Great guards are essential for successful teams and I just don't know if ISU is setting themselves up too well beyond Colvin. Especially with the recent transfers and Kadima checking out. I am worried about the direction of the team in regards to the 1 and 2. Thoughts?

So...how'd you come up with your name?

**Cycofan1** · 03-29-2009, 12:00 PM

It reflects him.

**dustinal** · 03-29-2009, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by tigershoops31

So...how'd you come up with your name?

Originally Posted by Cycofan1

It reflects him.

Be nice. He said he wasn't serious about putting the women on the men's team, and he brought up decent points about our guards.

**tigershoops31** · 03-29-2009, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by dustinal

Be nice. He said he wasn't serious about putting the women on the men's team, and he brought up decent points about our guards.

I wasn't saying anything about his points, his title just seemed kind of "dumb"

To me you can and should be happy and proud of the girls without dragging the guys down at the same time...

**CycloneErik** · 03-29-2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by tigershoops31

I wasn't saying anything about his points, his title just seemed kind of "dumb"

To me you can and should be happy and proud of the girls without dragging the guys down at the same time...

Kind of like complimenting BF without saying that Mac is terrible. It should be doable, but people don't seem to have it in them. Sad.

**Drive4cy** · 03-29-2009, 01:37 PM

I don't want to trade DG. I'd trade Ezell or Lacey for Lucca but not my buddy DG.

**Tornado man** · 03-29-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Drive4cy

I don't want to trade DG. I'd trade Ezell or Lacey for Lucca but not my buddy DG.

Agree. Ezell and Lacey - proof that you don't have to be quick or fast to make shot fakes and/or drive to the basket. Just takes effort and bball IQ...

**Dormeezy** · 03-29-2009, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

Agree. Ezell and Lacey - proof that you don't have to be quick or fast to make shot fakes and/or drive to the basket. Just takes effort and bball IQ...

...and playing against other women.

**DumbFan** · 03-29-2009, 03:30 PM

I will give DG some credit. He got better from last year. He took care of the ball better this year. He played aggressive against OU (or at least took advantage of his opportunities more). I believe he can be a good player for us but will need to be less passive and drive to the basket or work on a pull up jumper. The guy is a 6-4 guard and could be a mismatch for a lot of teams. I don't like comparing players or playing styles and realize that some are better than others, but Sherron Collins is 5-11 and averages 19 ppg vs DG's 10. If we could get that type of production out of a guard we would be in better shape. I dunno, hope for the best and see what happens.

**LeSchmick** · 03-29-2009, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Cycofan1

It reflects him.

So does yours.

**Cydkar** · 03-29-2009, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Dormeezy

...and playing against other women.

and play with a smaller ball.

**CycloneErik** · 03-29-2009, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by DumbFan

I will give DG some credit. He got better from last year. He took care of the ball better this year. He played aggressive against OU (or at least took advantage of his opportunities more). I believe he can be a good player for us but will need to be less passive and drive to the basket or work on a pull up jumper. The guy is a 6-4 guard and could be a mismatch for a lot of teams. I don't like comparing players or playing styles and realize that some are better than others, but Sherron Collins is 5-11 and averages 19 ppg vs DG's 10. If we could get that type of production out of a guard we would be in better shape. I dunno, hope for the best and see what happens.

I think DG has the potential. Like you said, he needs to be more aggressive. As he's surrounded by more athletic players, I think this will be easier for him.

If he can be more aggressive and finish stronger, he can really turn into a nice player.

**Dave19642006** · 03-29-2009, 05:20 PM

We need to get a fire McDermott thread going now

**mplscyclone** · 03-29-2009, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I think DG has the potential. Like you said, he needs to be more aggressive. As he's surrounded by more athletic players, I think this will be easier for him.

If he can be more aggressive and finish stronger, he can really turn into a nice player.

DG's problem is that he can't shoot. You can get better, but I do not think he'll ever be all that good. He'd really need to do some serious work on it this offseason. He doesn't have good form on his shot, as he tends to short-arm instead of follow through.

My understanding is that in high school DG was a driver/finisher. In HS all that's needed is a decent handle. In the Big 12, you have to be bigger and more athletic than he is to do this. He needs to put on more weight and just get mentally tough. I think he loses focus easy and his effort suffers when he isn't doing well.