The Newest Harrison Barnes Thread....

**GeronimusClone** · 03-30-2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by hall4cy

Sorry to be a downer all, but national championship and ISU do not coincide with each other. I hate to say it, but Harrison is going to Duke, Kansas, or UNC. He might keep ISU in his top 5 since we recruited him first but I think it will just be a mention out of respect rather than a true leader in his school of choice. We need to start looking at and talking about others rather than "the messiah" Barnes. He is a great kid and ballplayer, but lets be realistic about our chances. I would say we are a 1/20 shot at getting him, and Duke/KU?UNC own the other 90%.

I agree on our chances. Either way, I'm sick of hearing about him and he still has a year of high school left.

**Prone2Clone** · 03-30-2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by joefrog

But I actually think if he goes to a college like ISU and leads them deep into the tourney, he will get more attention. Think of Davidson last year, or Oklahoma this year. Do you think of the team or certain players? Exactly.

A red Lamborghini sitting next to four silver Malibus gets A LOT more attention than a red Lamborghini sitting next to four other red Lamborghinis.

**gocubs2118** · 03-30-2009, 12:08 PM

Right now I would say the odds are

60% Duke
30% ISU
10% KU/UNC/FLA

**Tornado man** · 03-30-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Prone2Clone

A red Lamborghini sitting next to four silver Malibus gets A LOT more attention than a red Lamborghini sitting next to four other red Lamborghinis.

Well, after watching Duke get pounded by 'Nova last week, it doesn't look to me that they have many "Lamborghinis."
Fact is, lots of Duke followers look at HB as their "savior" to get back to national prominence...

**KMAC_ATTACK** · 03-30-2009, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by ISU4ME

I believe you only have 4 arrests so far this year. A little off of last year's pace but consistent with the number of transfers in the basketball program.

Thats some funny stuff!!!!!

**gocubs2118** · 03-30-2009, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by GeronimusClone

I agree on our chances. Either way, I'm sick of hearing about him and he still has a year of high school left.

Then don't open threads that has the name Harrison Barnes in the title. Its that simple...

**Balls** · 03-30-2009, 12:11 PM

I agree that ISU winning a national title in the next 5 years is not realistic. While Duke winning is also unlikely, it's possible. So which is a bigger accomplishment? & gets more NBA attention?

1. Barnes leads ISU to Elite Eight or maybe even Final Four

OR

2. Barnes starts on a Duke team that plays in the National Championship game

**GeronimusClone** · 03-30-2009, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

Then don't open threads that has the name Harrison Barnes in the title. Its that simple...

Don't have to open it to see the name on the front page every day.

**Drewsch** · 03-30-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK

Harrison is about education and family. Because of his lack of a relationship with his Dad (Ronnie Harris), his relationship with his mother is the most important thing in his life. This by itself may be enough to keep him at ISU. Because of his younger sister, and his mothers employment at ISU, it stands that she will probably not follow her son to whatever school he attends unless its in ames. Regarding the educational importance in his life, the high standing of the Business Department at ISU is another very enticing reason to stay at ISU, Dukes business school is not even in the top 100.

Why would her job prevent her from moving to see her son play?

**Prone2Clone** · 03-30-2009, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Balls

I agree that ISU winning a national title in the next 5 years is not realistic.

I believe it's always realistic. Probable, no. Possible, yes. We were 15-15 before the Elite 8 year when a win over MSU would have made a national championship more likely than not considering the teams from the other regions that made it in to the Final Four that year. Izzo said we were the toughest team they played. A whole lot of things have to come together, no doubt. But never say never.

**Rick** · 03-30-2009, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK

I've heard so many people on here saying that its a done deal that Barnes is going to Duke. Well, from what i've heard its a 50/50 chance that ISU still lands him and here's why i think we still have a very good chance..

As it stands, there are two things that will determine his ultimate location for his college career, because the possibility of winning a national title actually exists at any school - not just Duke.

Harrison is about education and family. Because of his lack of a relationship with his Dad (Ronnie Harris), his relationship with his mother is the most important thing in his life. This by itself may be enough to keep him at ISU. Because of his younger sister, and his mothers employment at ISU, it stands that she will probably not follow her son to whatever school he attends unless its in ames. Regarding the educational importance in his life, the high standing of the Business Department at ISU is another very enticing reason to stay at ISU, Dukes business school is not even in the top 100.

Harrison Barnes is not your typical high school basketball superstar. He lacks that arrogance about himself except when he laces up his shoelaces and gets on the floor. This kid is very grounded and understands the process and the pitfalls to making the wrong decision.

If his decision is to stay at ISU, imo he puts himself around the people that mean the most to him in his life. The future in Basketball will work itself out. His life, his happiness and his ability to maintain the things that mean the most to him all point at ISU not Duke. And in terms of Basketball - go to duke and be a member of a team of all stars, the newest 5* recruit will be treated like all the other 5* recruits - sit and learn the philosophy. At ISU you will be the focal point of the offense and your ability to mimic his idol LeBron James will be more realistic carrying a team and learning what it is to be the leader of a team, because he would be the undoubted star of ISU basketball from day one.

Barnes could be the face of ISU basketball, he would simply be another player at Duke!!!!!

What are the chances you could go with GMAC on his next recruiting visit. After reading your post I would think you could almost sell us better than him or DR.

**tejasclone** · 03-30-2009, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Prone2Clone

A red Lamborghini sitting next to four silver Kia Spectras gets A LOT more attention than a red Lamborghini sitting next to four other red Lamborghinis.

Fixed.

jk.

kinda

**mplscyclone** · 03-30-2009, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Balls

I agree that ISU winning a national title in the next 5 years is not realistic. While Duke winning is also unlikely, it's possible. So which is a bigger accomplishment? & gets more NBA attention?

1. Barnes leads ISU to Elite Eight or maybe even Final Four

OR

2. Barnes starts on a Duke team that plays in the National Championship game

#2. Look at how many Kansas and Florida guys were drafted after they won. People don't remember the Elite Eight.

Your situation just points out on why HB might not come here though. People will expect him to get us to the Final Four or it will be a dissapointment, with a majority of the blame put on him.

If he goes to Duke and they do not do it, the fans will get down, but HB will not get singled out. All Duke brings in are McDonald's All-Americans so there is plenty of blame to go around.

**VanderHuge** · 03-30-2009, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by ribsnwhiskey

Riiiiight...

Does it make you feel important by calling him a liar? You don't have a reason to believe him or not believe him. It's just information that a guy wrote on a message board. Why do you think he's a liar?

**cyeah** · 03-30-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by CP44

Haha actually no.... more like one of his best friends and also from one of his relatives

At first I was not going to get into this thread but there is so much crap floating around it is impossible.

Who would one of his best friends be? Just initials I am not looking for you to out someone. Also, his relative list in central Iowa is real, real short and they are NOT talking to anyone about this crap. Of course, being so close to hsi friends and family I am sure you know this.

Harrson does more than give Greg the time of day - when Greg is around which os not all that often he has that whole day job thing.

Originally Posted by KMAC_ATTACK

The last father son conversation he had was specifically about this subject - as told by ronnie harris. Everyone realizes that Harrison if he is what's advertised against the elite competition could go pro after year one. But, his fathers last conversation talked about how the pro game could wait, go enjoy college, and get your degree. The potential for injury or length of playing career unknown, if you have your degree you will stand a much better chance at success outside of basketball. Ronnie Harris would be one to know this exact situation. So, from everything i've heard, he's very serious about going to school for 4 years and getting his degree...

That version of the convo from Ronnie is abouot 3x's longer than Harrison recalls it. Not to knock Ronnie, but he is not in the picture enough to give advice and even if he gave it the advice would carry less weight than advice coming from CP44.