Duke's recruits for the past 5 years

**ripvdub** · 03-31-2009, 08:32 PM

Maybe its because they have no dominant interior players. They are all short or rail thin forwards/guards.

**TitanClone** · 03-31-2009, 08:33 PM

Duke gets great PEOPLE to play for them. They don't have any "thugs" on there team like most schools. This is kind of a stereotype, but do you ever see Duke players covered in tattoos? (nothing against tats)

They recruit good players not good athletes like a majority of schools. Which is kind of getting them behind. Coach K will figure it out and Duke will be at the top again soon.

**jhill** · 03-31-2009, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by joefrog

Not sure where CB, or Hamilton or JVDB were ranked, but stop and think of how those guys looked when they first put on ISU jerseys, and how they performed at the end of last season.

Like McD's coaching or not, he can develop talent down low. Remember how much better Jiri became? I think if ISU can add that PG that can lock it down and a wing that can create his own shots, you are looking at the start of 20 win seasons at ISU.

Yes I know my post was off topic.

As for Duke, wow. Either the rankings are off, or they do not fit the system, or Duke cannot seem to really develop talent anymore. Look at how much Boozer is better in the pros than college, same with Brand. Can anybody name a wing/guard out of Duke that has had much of an NBA career?

I will take that a step further. How many ex-Duke guys have turned out to be stars in the NBA, regardless of position? Grant Hill could have been, if not for the injuries. Laettner was average at best. Hurley a bust (partly due to accident). Jay Williams a bust (injury). Elton Brand had a couple of good seasons. Corey Magette -- so so. Who am I forgetting?

Plus, has an ex-Dukey under Coach K EVER won an NBA championship?

**isunorth** · 03-31-2009, 08:42 PM

Fact is that Coach K recruits a bunch of sissies that were super-stars at the high school level, but most don't have the athleticism or tenacity to compete in the ACC.

It's the same reason most of them don't succeed at the NBA level. For every Boozer there are 3 Josh McRoberts and for every Maggette there are 3 J.J. Reddicks.

Coach K recruits the same kind of players every year. Great shooters with great basketbal IQs and no risk to flunk out of school or get in trouble with the law. He's been running the same system ever since I can remember and people are starting to pass him by.

It's hard to knock Coach K after all of his success, but I don't think he's adapting to the current style of play and the current caliber of athlete many schools are winning with.

Same thing happened to plenty of coaches in plenty of sports. As I've stated in other posts, I think this is a problem with "system" coaches that are stubborn and refuse to adjust.

**CycloneErik** · 03-31-2009, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by joefrog

Not sure where CB, or Hamilton or JVDB were ranked, but stop and think of how those guys looked when they first put on ISU jerseys, and how they performed at the end of last season.

Like McD's coaching or not, he can develop talent down low. Remember how much better Jiri became? I think if ISU can add that PG that can lock it down and a wing that can create his own shots, you are looking at the start of 20 win seasons at ISU.

Yes I know my post was off topic.

As for Duke, wow. Either the rankings are off, or they do not fit the system, or Duke cannot seem to really develop talent anymore. Look at how much Boozer is better in the pros than college, same with Brand. Can anybody name a wing/guard out of Duke that has had much of an NBA career?

Actually, I think your post was right on topic, because I think the whole point was that Duke isn't necessarily as impressive as the brand recognition makes it look.

McD is helping players to improve, and thus improve their future prospects. That could be a huge selling point to "certain recruits" in Ames, IA, or maybe for Mr. Ejim.

**clonechemist** · 03-31-2009, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by jhill

How many ex-Duke guys have turned out to be stars in the NBA, regardless of position? ... Who am I forgetting?...

Luol Deng is pretty good.

**clonerules** · 03-31-2009, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by jhill

I will take that a step further. How many ex-Duke guys have turned out to be stars in the NBA, regardless of position? Grant Hill could have been, if not for the injuries. Laettner was average at best. Hurley a bust (partly due to accident). Jay Williams a bust (injury). Elton Brand had a couple of good seasons. Corey Magette -- so so. Who am I forgetting?

Plus, has an ex-Dukey under Coach K EVER won an NBA championship?

Boozer, Dunleavy, Duhon, Battier..... I would say they are pretty dam good...

Cherokee parks

**Clones85'** · 03-31-2009, 11:03 PM

Coach K has made his players extremely one dimensional lately. They each do one thing really really well and other things just ok.

**kingcy** · 03-31-2009, 11:22 PM

Maybe other teams have figured out how to defend and score on Coach Ks system. Watching his teams play is seem they have a few athletes and a lot of shooters. Other top teams have a lot of athletes that can shoot as well.

**Skyh13** · 03-31-2009, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by clonechemist

Luol Deng is pretty good.

meh.

He's been ridiculously over-hyped and was incredibly underwhelming last year... this year he's been hurt a ton, and is still underwhelming.

Quite frankly, he's slow and doesn't/can't take it strong at the hoop, although he's done it a couple times this year. He's lucky he can hit the open 2, or else he'd be really useless.

**Tornado man** · 03-31-2009, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

Maybe its because they have no dominant interior players. They are all short or rail thin forwards/guards.

Exactly. It was painfully evident against Villanova that Duke had no one at the post or at the point to be competitive. They looked more like a 12 seed than a 2...

**clonesalltheway** · 04-01-2009, 12:41 AM

Shaun Livingston also got a multiyear extension saw it on ESPN ticker

**isunorth** · 04-01-2009, 02:48 AM

How many non-Duke players can say they have their own websites dedicated to them? By fans of rival teams no-less! What an honor!

Scheyer Face

And all the other great publicity on the web! How nice.

newsobserver.com | ACC Now - The Scheyer Face

Thighs Wide Shut

Truth About Duke - Encyclopedia - Jon Scheyer

On a serious note. Someone should bring this to HB's attention. Does he want to end up being ridiculed on the internet for all eyes to see?

**CB21** · 04-01-2009, 02:52 AM

Barnes to Kentucky wit Cal.

**Celeron** · 04-01-2009, 01:24 PM

Are people seriously saying that Duke doesn't recruit well or get good players? They're a disappointing team? Seriously?

A man who recruits 7 national players of the year. 9 national defensive players of the year (some multiple winners). That sounds Coach K is doing a terrible job.

9 straight Sweet Sixteens (98-06) and 10 Final Fours. I think they're doing okay down there.

I never understood the Duke bashing. I would love it if we had that kind of program at Iowa State. What is there to dislike about them? That they're good, and they continue to recruit top players? That they expect their athletes to be students? What is it that people dislike so much?

I understand that this topic is just out there to bash Duke and convince people that Harrison Barnes would be making a mistake by attending Duke. I understand that but it's kind of stretch. They're good. We wish we were that good.