Retire #21

**brianhos** · 04-25-2009, 08:28 AM

Cannot retire the jersey unless he graduates, no matter who it is. This is a university not a NBA prep academy.

**gocubs2118** · 04-25-2009, 08:32 AM

Right now, I would retire #13 before #21.

**kucyclone** · 04-25-2009, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by brianhos

Cannot retire the jersey unless he graduates, no matter who it is. This is a university not a NBA prep academy.

Why not?

If it can help get recruits, whats the harm in throwing a banner up? Texas put up Durant's jersey this season, for what it's worth.

Also, does anyone know if ISU has set requirements for jersey retirement, such as First Team All-American? Or is it discretionary?

**kingcy** · 04-25-2009, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

Right now, I would retire #13 before #21.

He did good things at ISU but was an average player. Only the elite need to have their jersery retired. Graduate or not.

**isuno1fan** · 04-25-2009, 09:02 AM

Talk about getting the cart ahead of the horse. Let's see CB stay for 4 years and get a degree and lead this team back to where it should be and then we'll get in this discussion.

**hoosman** · 04-25-2009, 09:25 AM

Yea, then we'll be playing our games in Brackins Coliseum.

**everyyard** · 04-25-2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by hoosman

Yea, then we'll be playing our games in Brackins Coliseum.

If we get to the tourney and he wins his last game then he can have it.

**shildreth** · 04-25-2009, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by isunorth

I like CB as much as the next guy, but any talk of retiring his number right now is premature and, in my opinion, a little dramatic.

Let's not get too emotional about Brackins coming back. Take a deep breath

thank you! spot on.

**mplscyclone** · 04-25-2009, 10:02 AM

All of you are on crack who think this.

ISU went 34-0 at home in the two years Tinsley was a PG. Fizer was such a good college basketball player and was on the cover of SI.

Some of you think Brackins is a God, but he's an inconsistent player, with potential, who happened to drop 42 points on National TV... There were plenty of games that he mentally checked out, where Tinsley or Fizer wouldn't have let us lose.....

Unless we're getting to the Elite Eight and Brackins can have a better year than last year, no way I'd retire his Jersey....

**hursts** · 04-25-2009, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by brianhos

Cannot retire the jersey unless he graduates, no matter who it is. This is a university not a NBA prep academy.

Jeff Grayer's jersey was retired shortly after he joined the NBA and he wasn't a graduate at the time. In fact, he just graduated a couple of years ago.

**mplscyclone** · 04-25-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by hursts

Jeff Grayer's jersey was retired shortly after he joined the NBA and he wasn't a graduate at the time. In fact, he just graduated a couple of years ago.

Did Grayer spend all of his eligible years at ISU though?

I don't think it matters whether they got an actual degree. I think it matters whether they leave for the pros while they still have eligibility...

**gocubs2118** · 04-25-2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by mplscyclone

All of you are on crack who think this.

ISU went 34-0 at home in the two years Tinsley was a PG. Fizer was such a good college basketball player and was on the cover of SI.

Some of you think Brackins is a God, but he's an inconsistent player, with potential, who happened to drop 42 points on National TV... There were plenty of games that he mentally checked out, where Tinsley or Fizer wouldn't have let us lose.....

Unless we're getting to the Elite Eight and Brackins can have a better year than last year, no way I'd retire his Jersey....

Brackins is a God...

**Haverhill** · 04-25-2009, 10:32 AM

There have been greater players than Craig Brackins at Iowa State???

**cybsball20** · 04-25-2009, 10:37 AM

Right now you have to be an All American (not honorable mention) and graduate to get your jersey retired...

**mplscyclone** · 04-25-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Right now you have to be an All American (not honorable mention) and graduate to get your jersey retired...

That makes sense, otherwise under the criteria for Brackins, you'd be able to make arguments for Vroman and Homan...

It's supposed to be a very exclusive group, not necessarily the best guy on the team. I don't even know if Brackins is the best player in the past decade for us...