New Walk-on

I just talked to Bubu a couple days ago at my little bro's graduation party. He's very excited, thinks the team is has the pieces in place and its going to be an exciting year! Very nice kid.

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Originally Posted by Clones85'

I'm surprised it took 10 posts for someone to say they were surprised that X was brought into this thread

X can be Chizik, Hawks, HB, or WJ :jimlad:

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Forgot DMac.

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Originally Posted by Dryburn

How was he not a typical walk-on? He was not offered a scholarship by Orr, came here from Illinois, and tried out for the team. How is that not typical?

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Out of HS, Hornacek ever so briefly attended one of the Ivy's (Cornell maybe?), didn't care for it and returned to the midwest. His basketball coach (Father) had a relationship with Orr and he landed at ISU, which ended up being very beneficial for both parties. Since Ivy League schools don't grant athletic scholarships, he didn't have to be released from anything and was free to join ISU's squad. I have no idea if he was promised anything beforehand, but I can vouch that he joined with little fanfare. Nobody knew who he was upon his entry to that first game...

was he offered the same thing at iowa?

Dependence on meaningful contributions from walkons means a failure in evaluation of your scholarship athletes.

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Originally Posted by CrossCyed

Dependence on meaningful contributions from walkons means a failure in evaluation of your scholarship athletes.

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Or failure in evaluation of your non-scholarship players.

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Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

Or failure in evaluation of your non-scholarship players.

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Maybe 2% of the time. If you do a good job in your scholarship recruiting, those walkons should only see the floor in the final four minutes.

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Originally Posted by CrossCyed

Dependence on meaningful contributions from walkons means a failure in evaluation of your scholarship athletes.

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True, but you have to look at it from a practice point of view. While not a Big 12 starter, he will give our guys another body to work on. That's never a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by Stewo

True, but you have to look at it from a practice point of view. While not a Big 12 starter, he will give our guys another body to work on. That's never a bad thing.

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Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm glad to have him aboard. I'm just saying if he plays meaningful minutes, we're more ****ed than a geisha girl during World War II.

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Originally Posted by CrossCyed

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm glad to have him aboard. I'm just saying if he plays meaningful minutes, we're more ****ed than a geisha girl during World War II.

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Rofl
Hopefully, that problem is a thing of the past.

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Originally Posted by CrossCyed

Maybe 2% of the time. If you do a good job in your scholarship recruiting, those walkons should only see the floor in the final four minutes.

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True, and I would add player retention.

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Originally Posted by CrossCyed

Maybe 2% of the time. If you do a good job in your scholarship recruiting, those walkons should only see the floor in the final four minutes.

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Not necessarily, CrossCyed. Some players develop later than others. Would you have been happy if he would have gone to Ellsworth for two years, refined his game, and then transferred to Iowa State? I don't see a whole lot of difference in that scenerio versus being at ISU as a non-scholorship guy playing in a mop-up role for two years and then getting meaningful minutes and possibily starting during his last two years.

Having said that however, I think Palu's interests may have been better served being on the floor for 35-minutes a game at Ellsworth for a year or two rather than "riding the pine" at Iowa State. Troy Muilenburg at Ellsworth is an outstanding coach (he also has some outstanding assistant coaches including former D1 player Ron Bayless) and there is no doubt in my mind a year or two there would have prepared him well to play at the next level.

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Originally Posted by Wingback

Not necessarily, CrossCyed. Some players develop later than others. Would you have been happy if he would have gone to Ellsworth for two years, refined his game, and then transferred to Iowa State? I don't see a whole lot of difference in that scenerio versus being at ISU as a non-scholorship guy playing in a mop-up role for two years and then getting meaningful minutes and possibily starting during his last two years.

Having said that however, I think Palu's interests may have been better served being on the floor for 35-minutes a game at Ellsworth for a year or two rather than "riding the pine" at Iowa State. Troy Muilenburg at Ellsworth is an outstanding coach (he also has some outstanding assistant coaches including former D1 player Ron Bayless) and there is no doubt in my mind a year or two there would have prepared him well to play at the next level.

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Bubu Palo is not a D1 player. Whether he went JUCO or not wouldn't change a thing. But he will be a great walk on for the program

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Originally Posted by Clones85'

Bubu Palo is not a D1 player. Whether he went JUCO or not wouldn't change a thing. But he will be a great walk on for the program

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How does that make any sense, Clones85. If he is "not a D1 player," as you attest, why would he be a "great walk on" at a D1 school? He either is a D1 player or he isn't! If he's not, why would you want him at Iowa State under any conditions. You make no sense, man.