Good article on Eustachy and Gillespie

**kilgore_trout** · 09-17-2009, 09:33 AM

The AMA disagrees. As does medical and scientific consensus.

Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by superman_101680

I have both in my family but I don't consider alcholism a disease...it's not something you can catch or develop. It's more of a personality or genetic disorder with addictive behavior.

**WalkingCY** · 09-17-2009, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Billups06

I don't want to get into or start this debate, but Stinson, Blalock etc were coming in his next year. I would be thrilled to still have Larry here.

Yep, we would have been sweet....and the players would STILL be coming in. I can't stand it when people talk crap about LE's coaching. He was awesome.

Still, it is in the past. What's done, is done. I hope that GMac can turn it around this year....this is HIS year to shine and get us rocking again! Go Clones-

**gogagig** · 09-17-2009, 09:47 AM

I suppose STDs aren't really diseases either, right? Since you have control....

**mustangcy** · 09-17-2009, 09:49 AM

The 2000 AP and USBWA National Coach of the Year hasn't coached in the NCAA tournament since 2001, and in six years he has yet to take Southern Miss to a postseason event of any kind.

Wow, think about this for a second...

**Cydkar** · 09-17-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by GeronimusClone

Let's be honest. We're ISU, it's never a guarantee.

I posted that to mean that if he was still here it would be because we were winning. Not as a guarantee that we would be winning if he was here.

**Knownothing** · 09-17-2009, 10:57 AM

You can't go to the store and by some cancer. You can go to the store and buy alchohol.
You can chose to stay home or go out and drink. You can't decide not to have cancer.
They can rehab you if you are an alchoholic. A lot of cancer they can't do anything with.
So comparing alchoholism to cancer is freakin rediculous.

I love Larry though. Probably one of my favorite coaches ever.

**gogagig** · 09-17-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

You can't go to the store and by some cancer. You can go to the store and buy alchohol.
You can chose to stay home or go out and drink. You can't decide not to have cancer.
They can rehab you if you are an alchoholic. A lot of cancer they can't do anything with.
So comparing alchoholism to cancer is freakin rediculous.

I love Larry though. Probably one of my favorite coaches ever.

Sexually transmitted AIDS is not a disease either!

**clonehenge** · 09-17-2009, 11:16 AM

I don't think LE is comparing alcoholism to cancer...he doesn't say, "alcoholism is like cancer"...what he's saying is people make jokes about alcoholics when alcoholism has the ability to destroy lives as well as cancer.

For instance, herpes is a disease and people make fun of people with herpes all the time...does herpes destroy lives? I would say no...but if herpes caused millions of deaths nobody would be joking about it.

Alcoholism kills people and destroys the lives of family members of alcoholics...LE was saying something like that should not be joked about.

**jdoggivjc** · 09-17-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

You can't go to the store and by some cancer. You can go to the store and buy alchohol.
You can chose to stay home or go out and drink. You can't decide not to have cancer.
They can rehab you if you are an alchoholic. A lot of cancer they can't do anything with.
So comparing alchoholism to cancer is freakin rediculous.

I love Larry though. Probably one of my favorite coaches ever.

They don't call cigarettes "cancer sticks" for nothing...

**superman_101680** · 09-17-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by kilgore_trout

The AMA disagrees. As does medical and scientific consensus.

Just sayin'.

That might be true but with some types with cancer, regardless of choice and behavior, you willl still get cancer. The same can't be said of alcoholism. I understand being predisposed but that's just like obesity which is also a lifestyle in many instances. In most cases it's all about choice.

**BryceC** · 09-17-2009, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by GeronimusClone

Alcoholism is like gambling addiction in my mind. And I would never compare gambling to cancer.

This is actually pretty much exactly how I feel about it.

**Bader** · 09-17-2009, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by superman_101680

That might be true but with some types with cancer, regardless of choice and behavior, you willl still get cancer. The same can't be said of alcoholism. I understand being predisposed but that's just like obesity which is also a lifestyle in many instances. In most cases it's all about choice.

I would say that with some types of cancer, regardless of choice and behavior, it will still kill you.

Alcoholism is very much a disease, an alcoholic who is able to stay sober is still an alcoholic.

**Tornado man** · 09-17-2009, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Bader

Alcoholism is very much a disease, an alcoholic who is able to stay sober is still an alcoholic.

You mean "chooses" don't you?

**MadCy** · 09-17-2009, 12:19 PM

I think some are missing the point of what he said. He didn't say one was worse than the other. Both are diseases, cancer and alcoholism are diseases. People don't laugh at other people with cancer, why should they laugh at people with another disease, alcoholism?

People don't ask for alcoholism just as much as people don't ask for cancer. If you think alcoholism is so easy to control... wow, I wish I could go through life as naive as you are.

**superman_101680** · 09-17-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by MadCy

I think some are missing the point of what he said. He didn't say one was worse than the other. Both are diseases, cancer and alcoholism are diseases. People don't laugh at other people with cancer, why should they laugh at people with another disease, alcoholism?

People don't ask for alcoholism just as much as people don't ask for cancer. If you think alcoholism is so easy to control... wow, I wish I could go through life as naive as you are.

I'm not missing the point. I just don't classify alcoholism a disease.