Crowd at Black Hills State game

**Jarrods79** · 11-03-2009, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

I hate that the passion for ISU BB that Johnny inspired in the early and mid eighties seems to have died. Half full...even for a lousy exhibition game would have never happened back when I was in school in the mid 80s. And we certainly wouldn't have been "OK" with it if it did. Oh well, things obviously change.

What would you suggest to fix it? For a Monday, and being a game that doesn't count, adding in the factor that our team is getting overlooked...seems ok, but my experience ranges from around early to mid 2000. Now if we pull off a Big 12 title, and/or go deep in the tourney I would expect things to change. Dare I also mention the recruits we may pull in to get people excited?

**cycloneworld** · 11-03-2009, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Iowa averaged more for conference games than ISU :)

They also averaged more "come to the game for free and we will even give you free pizza" games than ISU.

**dtclones** · 11-03-2009, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

I hate that the passion for ISU BB that Johnny inspired in the early and mid eighties seems to have died. Half full...even for a lousy exhibition game would have never happened back when I was in school in the mid 80s. And we certainly wouldn't have been "OK" with it if it did. Oh well, things obviously change.

I have a feeling a lot of that passion will return to Hilton by mid-season.

**nb06** · 11-03-2009, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Iowa averaged more for conference games than ISU :)

Can you share your source on this one? I'm not calling you out, I just have a really hard time believing that. Here is the total per game averages for 08-09. I couldn't find conference stats by team though.

30. Iowa St. 11,965
31. South Carolina 11,776
32. Oklahoma 11,490
33. Pittsburgh 11,194
34. Iowa 10,861

**cayin** · 11-03-2009, 08:46 AM

That 10,861 figure for Iowa is complete and utter BS. Figure in the Illini game at Carver and it is much worse. I mean there had to be about 5 thousand Illini fans there last year.

**cyclonenum1** · 11-03-2009, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Jarrods79

What would you suggest to fix it? For a Monday, and being a game that doesn't count, adding in the factor that our team is getting overlooked...seems ok, but my experience ranges from around early to mid 2000. Now if we pull off a Big 12 title, and/or go deep in the tourney I would expect things to change. Dare I also mention the recruits we may pull in to get people excited?

Listen, I'm not bemoaning anything here.

All I am saying is that ISU is just like about 90-95% of every DI CBB school now...people show up for the "good" games or if the team is good...they don't show up for the "bad" games or if the team is struggling.

We used to be a passionate CBB school that would show up no matter what. Schools like Indiana, UNC, Duke, KU, UK...they pack them in no matter when the game is played, who the opponent is, or what their team is like. We used to be like that. Another poster put it well in a thread sometime last season...ISU MBB was an event to be seen at and not to be missed back in the JO days.

It's just different now.

**Erik4Cy** · 11-03-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Iowa averaged more for conference games than ISU :)

Anyone with a brain in eastern Iowa knows that was a joke, I have hawk friends I know who live in iowa city, who actually debated and some ended up not going to the free games...most ppl in carver hawk moseleum just show up and could care less about the game, LOTS of talking on phones, txting, everyone sitting down. Ppl just go through the motions IF the actually go and that's usually only if tix are dirt cheap or free. It's a horrible college basketball atmosphere and I think they like to blow up the #'s of attendance to try and make up for how horrible it looks to those actually at the game or watching on TV.

**LutherClone** · 11-03-2009, 12:08 PM

There is absolutely no comparison between the gameday fervor at Hilton compared to Carver- Hawkeye. None. End of discussion.

**CycloneErik** · 11-04-2009, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Iowa averaged more for conference games than ISU :)

Pizzas given aren't tickets sold

**CycloneErik** · 11-04-2009, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Frak

Does that count the "bring a friend for free" promotion? Or are they double counting the knitting ladies?

They double-count the fans that live in double-wides maybe?

**BooneCy** · 11-04-2009, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Jarrods79

On another note, does anyone know why we don't do a "midnight madness" kind of thing for opening practice like other schools do?

We used to do something similar to it, but it kind of was a bust after they changed the format of it a few times and then combined men's and women's.

I remember Blalock's first year at the "midnight madness" event. Blalock won the dunk contest with a between his legs one handed slam. It was crazy watching our point guard pull that off.

**heitclone** · 11-04-2009, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by BooneCy

We used to do something similar to it, but it kind of was a bust after they changed the format of it a few times and then combined men's and women's.

I remember Blalock's first year at the "midnight madness" event. Blalock won the dunk contest with a between his legs one handed slam. It was crazy watching our point guard pull that off.

I know they did somethign similar in the Johnny Orr days, like mid to late 80's. They did it after home FBall games. They had a 3pt contest, dunk contest and a light scrimmage if I remember right.