New commit for next year

**IcSyU** · 11-11-2009, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by StLouisClone

Well, if we get Barnes and Phillips and no one else leaves, then we will have 8 guards competing for playing time next season: Garrett, Buckley, Colvin, Christopherson, Lucca, Boozer, Barnes and Phillips. Even if you go with a 3-guard lineup, there's not enough playing time to keep all those guys happy. Maybe we will redshirt Barnes.

If you can upgrade, you do. If some of those players don't see the floor because there is someone better playing ahead of them, I won't shed a tear at all.

**ISUonthemove** · 11-11-2009, 12:27 PM

How does Phillips compare to Gilstrap athletically and skill wise. I know they are at different positions but can Phillips be the type of impact player we're hoping Gilstrap is?

**IcSyU** · 11-11-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by ISUonthemove

How does Phillips compare to Gilstrap athletically and skill wise. I know they are at different positions but can Phillips be the type of impact player we're hoping Gilstrap is?

Yes.

**mfelske** · 11-11-2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by tman24

I am guessing he is wait to see what Barnes says, before he comes here.

That was my first thought too, but it doesn't make sense to me. If Barnes doesn't choose ISU there is playing time to be had. If Barnes does come to ISU, then you have a chance to play with the #1 recruit in the country. Seems like a win-win to me.

**CloneIce** · 11-11-2009, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by mfelske

That was my first thought too, but it doesn't make sense to me. If Barnes doesn't choose ISU there is playing time to be had. If Barnes does come to ISU, then you have a chance to play with the #1 recruit in the country. Seems like a win-win to me.

Iowa State has 2 Srs on their roster. Ejim + (Barnes or Phillips) = 2 commits.

We will likely have room for more commits, but it looks bad to oversign like that in the early signing period. If Barnes commits we are likely waiting until the late signing period to take Phillips..... kinda like last year when we waited to announce the Dendy commit until after Mann left the team, opening up a scholarship spot for Dendy.

**jhill** · 11-11-2009, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

Iowa State has 2 Srs on their roster. Ejim + (Barnes or Phillips) = 2 commits.

We will likely have room for more commits, but it looks bad to oversign like that in the early signing period. If Barnes commits we are likely waiting until the late signing period to take Phillips..... kinda like last year when we waited to announce the Dendy commit until after Mann left the team, opening up a scholarship spot for Dendy.

I am drawing a blank, who is a senior besides JVB?

**isucyfan** · 11-11-2009, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by jhill

I am drawing a blank, who is a senior besides JVB?

Gilstrap.

**Tre4ISU** · 11-11-2009, 01:30 PM

Regarding Brackins I can only say this. If HB comes here, I give a 75% chance of Brackins staying. The potential there may be enough to sway him into staying another year.

**StLouisClone** · 11-11-2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

Iowa State has 2 Srs on their roster. Ejim + (Barnes or Phillips) = 2 commits.

We will likely have room for more commits, but it looks bad to oversign like that in the early signing period. If Barnes commits we are likely waiting until the late signing period to take Phillips..... kinda like last year when we waited to announce the Dendy commit until after Mann left the team, opening up a scholarship spot for Dendy.

This is my thinking. JVB and Gilstrap are the only seniors. Brackins might leave but it looks really bad if you give away his scholarship before the season even starts. If Brackins does leave, then we're losing Gilstrap and two bigs and potentially replacing them with Ejim, Barnes and Phillips? That makes no sense. I think Phillips will have to wait until the Spring. That's when the coaches will find out who wants to return and who wants to leave. If a guard wants to leave, then we can sign Phillips. If we sign Barnes and Brackins leaves, then I look for the staff to recruit a Juco power forward to take Brackins place.

**Cydkar** · 11-11-2009, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Regarding Brackins I can only say this. If HB comes here, I give a 75% chance of Brackins staying. The potential there may be enough to sway him into staying another year.

I give it .0075%

**IcSyU** · 11-11-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by StLouisClone

This is my thinking. JVB and Gilstrap are the only seniors. Brackins might leave but it looks really bad if you give away his scholarship before the season even starts. If Brackins does leave, then we're losing Gilstrap and two bigs and potentially replacing them with Ejim, Barnes and Phillips? That makes no sense. I think Phillips will have to wait until the Spring. That's when the coaches will find out who wants to return and who wants to leave. If a guard wants to leave, then we can sign Phillips. If we sign Barnes and Brackins leaves, then I look for the staff to recruit a Juco power forward to take Brackins place.

Or go with 3 guards and let Pomlee, Hamilton, Dendy, etc. patrol the inside...

**saf** · 11-11-2009, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Cydkar

I give it .0075%

So you're saying there's a chance!

**StLouisClone** · 11-11-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Or go with 3 guards and let Pomlee, Hamilton, Dendy, etc. patrol the inside...

Assuming we sign Barnes, would you be willing to let Phillips take our third scholarship now (before the season even starts) and then take your chances next season with just those 3 guys in the middle? We haven't even seen Pomlee and Dendy play yet.

**Clone5** · 11-11-2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Or go with 3 guards and let Pomlee, Hamilton, Dendy, etc. patrol the inside...

I don't like that idea. Don't mind the three guards but those post players wouldn't be giving us much offense.

**clone4lyfe** · 11-11-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Regarding Brackins I can only say this. If HB comes here, I give a 75% chance of Brackins staying. The potential there may be enough to sway him into staying another year.

I think 3 things all have to happen in order for Brackins to even consider coming back. #1- Barnes signs with us Friday, #2- The team makes it to the NCAA tourney and competes well, and #3- Gilstrap gets his 6th year. I think CB only considers a return if all 3 of those take place b/c he knows that we would be a contender w/him, Barnes, and Gilstrap leading the way.