Over/Under on Craig Brackins' Stats

**BBHMagic** · 11-18-2009, 03:53 PM

Will Craig beat his stats of 20.2 ppg and 9.5 rebounds from last year?

I think he beats his points but not rebounds.

**BryceC** · 11-18-2009, 03:55 PM

I doubt he beats either, way more options on the team this year.

**psycln11** · 11-18-2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by BryceC

I doubt he beats either, way more options on the team this year.

^^^ THIS!! Which is a good thing obviously.

**chuckd4735** · 11-18-2009, 04:23 PM

Give me the under on both for the reasons stated above, but it wont be under by much.

**HoopKnowledge** · 11-18-2009, 04:25 PM

Just increase one total- WINS! Get team to postseason!

**bawbie** · 11-18-2009, 04:33 PM

Under on both. I'm guessing more like 17 and 8.5 this year.

**isufan** · 11-18-2009, 04:37 PM

Under on both. I'm guessing more like 17 and 8.5 this year.

+1

**BBHMagic** · 11-18-2009, 04:47 PM

I was trying to think of this by comparing to other players. I went and looked at Fizer's old stats and he increased his ppg by 5 and slightly improved rebounding from sophmore to junior year. A lot of cyclone fans (me included) think that his team was better than this one because the supporting cast was better. Some of you seem to think that a better supporting cast will hurt his stats. I think that a good player always gets his points and even easier when he's not the only focus.

**JP4CY** · 11-18-2009, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by BBHMagic

Some of you seem to think that a better supporting cast will hurt his stats. I think that a good player always gets his points and even easier when he's not the only focus.

I think a better cast decreases his points but might give him some garbage points/tip ins/rebounds from Dendy/Gilstrap/Ham shots. So all in all I think he'll be slightly under last year but that's OK to us as wins, probably not OK to his draft stock increasing a whole ton.

**LindenCy** · 11-18-2009, 05:05 PM

He will probably be slightly under, because of more options, but also, we will be scoring 10-20 more pts per game this year (I hope) so there are more available.

**IcSyU** · 11-18-2009, 05:06 PM

I'd guess about 18 ppg and his rebounding stays nearly the same.

**brentblum** · 11-18-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by BBHMagic

I was trying to think of this by comparing to other players. I went and looked at Fizer's old stats and he increased his ppg by 5 and slightly improved rebounding from sophmore to junior year. A lot of cyclone fans (me included) think that his team was better than this one because the supporting cast was better. Some of you seem to think that a better supporting cast will hurt his stats. I think that a good player always gets his points and even easier when he's not the only focus.

Fizer's squad only had a rotation of 8 players (Tinsley, Horton, Nurse, Stevie, Marcus, Shirley/Rancik, Richard Evans, Brandon Hawkins). Shirley and Rancik each alternated being injured that season, while Evans and Hawkins rarely shot the ball. Fizer took roughly 40% of Iowa State's shots that season, which is a ton.

Brackins took about 30% of the shots last year (512 of the 1732.) He is down to 22% thru 3 games this year. 11 Cyclones have had 5 or more shot attempts already this year.

Unless he shoots a ridiculous percentage or gets to the foul line a bunch more, the points have to come down. Same goes for rebounds as Gilstrap, Dendy and the new guards are better rebounders. Will be interesting to watch.

**Cyclonepride** · 11-18-2009, 05:25 PM

I'll take the under on both, and the over on WINS! ALL IN BABY!

**bufante** · 11-18-2009, 05:27 PM

I'll take the under on points and I would love to see an over on rebounds (which I think is one of the things he wanted to work on this year).

**BBHMagic** · 11-18-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by brentblum

Brackins took about 30% of the shots last year (512 of the 1732.) He is down to 22% thru 3 games this year. 11 Cyclones have had 5 or more shot attempts already this year.

Unless he shoots a ridiculous percentage or gets to the foul line a bunch more, the points have to come down. Same goes for rebounds as Gilstrap, Dendy and the new guards are better rebounders. Will be interesting to watch.

I think that his points production will step up a lot as the competition gets tougher. We'll need to stick with our bread and butter a little more in those situations. Plus, I think that Brackins plays much better against tougher competition (look at Kansas last year). I do think his rebounds will go down this year though because we have more bigs this year.