Chasson Randle at the Iowa Game

**rdubbs** · 12-02-2009, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by mjones34

I've said it a million times: Most Hawk fans will not follow a losing product. They do not like to associate themselves with losing. I've always prided clone fans in that we support our team even when the programs are down.

Really?

**DRCHIRO** · 12-02-2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by rdubbs

Really?

Yes, really. The state of iowa is probably 70 percent hawk fans and maybe 30 percent clone fans (that's not counting the diehard UNI and drake fans). We don't have the number of fans you have to fill up a stadium. Hilton will never look like carver, never. The iowa program is not far removed from success and look at you're arena. If you're football and basketball teams were reversed, I would bet that kinnick would look like carver does now. You do have a lot of loyal fans, but there are many who jump on the train when the going is good. As a percentage, the cyclones have more loyal fans.

**rdubbs** · 12-02-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by DRCHIRO

Yes, really. The state of iowa is probably 70 percent hawk fans and maybe 30 percent clone fans (that's not counting the diehard UNI and drake fans). We don't have the number of fans you have to fill up a stadium. Hilton will never look like carver, never. The iowa program is not far removed from success and look at you're arena. If you're football and basketball teams were reversed, I would bet that kinnick would look like carver does now. You do have a lot of loyal fans, but there are many who jump on the train when the going is good. As a percentage, the cyclones have more loyal fans.

The sad thing is you took the time to type this and actually believe it.

**mustangcy** · 12-02-2009, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by rdubbs

The sad thing is you took the time to type this and actually believe it.

Well, it's true.

**rdubbs** · 12-02-2009, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by mustangcy

Well, it's true.

I'm not going to get into this with you in the "non rivalry forum" but tell me again how well did you sell out the Missouri game at JTS a few years ago when the winner would be the North champ?

**ClimbIowa** · 12-02-2009, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by mustangcy

Well, it's true.

It's true about basketball. But not football. Not even close. Of course, Iowa State has had a pretty decent run in bball since Tim Floyd was the coach so I'm not sure it says too much about the loyalty of the fans when nearly every fan can remember when ISU was the second best team in the nation.

**cyclonestate** · 12-02-2009, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by rdubbs

I'm not going to get into this with you in the "non rivalry forum" but tell me again how well did you sell out the Missouri game at JTS a few years ago when the winner would be the North champ?

Of course, the fact that the game was on Thanksgiving weekend and all of the students were gone had nothing to do with attendance. At least we didn't stoop to giving away free tickets and free pizza to beg folks to attend.

**rdubbs** · 12-02-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by cyclonestate

Of course, the fact that the game was on Thanksgiving weekend and all of the students were gone had nothing to do with attendance. At least we didn't stoop to giving away free tickets and free pizza to beg folks to attend.

You couldn't fill a stadium with a conference championship on the line, you can make all the excuses you want, YOU COULDN'T FILL THE STADIUM! You can rip the Iowa basketball crowd all you want (not once have I said the crowds have been even average)

**WalkingCY** · 12-02-2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by mjones34

I've said it a million times: Most Hawk fans will not follow a losing product. They do not like to associate themselves with losing. I've always prided clone fans in that we support our team even when the programs are down.

Totally agree. They are the worst fanbase of all-time. The support of this current MBB team proves that they are horrid fans. Only when they are good, right EIU?

Heck, we went what 15-16 last year....and still finished 3rd in attendance last year in the B12. We are just BETTER fans.....and I do attribute that more because we typically only have ALUMNI for fans.

Loyal Sons forever true. Go Clones!

**mustangcy** · 12-02-2009, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by rdubbs

I'm not going to get into this with you in the "non rivalry forum" but tell me again how well did you sell out the Missouri game at JTS a few years ago when the winner would be the North champ?

Nice mis-direction. I look forward to hearing about this game for the next 50 years. Why not bring up the countless times since fans turned out in droves to watch really terrible football?

**mustangcy** · 12-02-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by WalkingCY

Totally agree. They are the worst fanbase of all-time. The support of this current MBB team proves that they are horrid fans. Only when they are good, right EIU?

Heck, we went what 15-16 last year....and still finished 3rd in attendance last year in the B12. We are just BETTER fans.....and I do attribute that more because we typically only have ALUMNI for fans.

Loyal Sons forever true. Go Clones!

Bingo.

**rdubbs** · 12-02-2009, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by mustangcy

Nice mis-direction. I look forward to hearing about this game for the next 50 years. Why not bring up the countless times since fans turned out in droves to watch really terrible football?

How's ISU attendance been for football games? You can say I'm misdirecting but you mentioning basketball is the same attempt at changing the subject. ISU's football attendance is terrible and this year Iowa's men's basketball attendance is terrible, case closed.

**mustangcy** · 12-02-2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by rdubbs

How's ISU attendance been for football games? You can say I'm misdirecting but you mentioning basketball is the same attempt at changing the subject. ISU's football attendance is terrible and this year Iowa's men's basketball attendance is terrible, case closed.

Just stop it. You are making youself look like a fool. Comparing Iowa's mbb attendance to ISU football? Wow...I'm seriously speechless.

**IcSyU** · 12-02-2009, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by rdubbs

How's ISU attendance been for football games? You can say I'm misdirecting but you mentioning basketball is the same attempt at changing the subject. ISU's football attendance is terrible and this year Iowa's men's basketball attendance is terrible, case closed.

Terrible for ISU football?

Compared to Iowa, yes, our attendance is lower, but when you have 1/2 the fans, it's going to be. When your stadium is smaller, it's going to be.

Comparing ISU's football attendance to Iowa's MBB attendance the past few seasons is terrible. Iowa's MBB attendance is the hot dog thrown down the hallway of ISU's football attendance that's how pathetic Iowa's MBB attendance is. Iowa State's WOMEN compete in attendance with the Iowa men, and people have to actually pay to see the Twister Sisters. We don't just let students in to push attendance over 13 people.

**WalkingCY** · 12-02-2009, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Terrible for ISU football?

Compared to Iowa, yes, our attendance is lower, but when you have 1/2 the fans, it's going to be. When your stadium is smaller, it's going to be.

Comparing ISU's football attendance to Iowa's MBB attendance the past few seasons is terrible. Iowa's MBB attendance is the hot dog thrown down the hallway of ISU's football attendance that's how pathetic Iowa's MBB attendance is. Iowa State's WOMEN compete in attendance with the Iowa men, and people have to actually pay to see the Twister Sisters. We don't just let students in to push attendance over 13 people.

agree here.

To rdubbs: "Beat it geek."