McDermotts future

**CyBobby** · 01-21-2010, 09:47 AM

I voted Gone for McDermott....biggest mistake since the hiring of Lynn Nance!!!! snd we're gonna get the same result too!

I'll leave you guys/gals with this thought...."I want me and greg to retire together"...quote Jamie Pollard

with that said............... i cant say im looking forward to next year..............

**fcmc** · 01-21-2010, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Will had announced.

fcmc--welcome back. I notice you missed the threads following our road win on Saturday. We missed you in the celebration.

The Nebraska win was Mcdermott's 15th conference win as ISU's head coach now in his fourth season.
Five of those wins have been against the doormat of the Big 12 conference, the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
Beating Nebraska in basketball is meaningless.
The day Mcdermott pulls his first upset as head coach of ISu I'll celebrate.
Four years, and I'm still waiting.

**ajk4st8** · 01-21-2010, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Yes, those guys are nice players, the problem is that everyone around is us getting GREAT players, year in and year out.

We are years and years behind in recruiting top 5 Big 12 talent players.

Please try another coach

**Clones21** · 01-21-2010, 07:01 PM

When times are hard, Change.

**CycloneErik** · 01-21-2010, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

When times are hard, Change.

Recipe for chaotic living.

**Clones21** · 01-21-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Recipe for chaotic living.

Just some lyrics from a song i thought id post on here

**ISUKyro** · 01-21-2010, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Recipe for chaotic living.

This is were I get torn in two.
I was a big time poster back a few times saying Mac needed time to make the program his - to get his players in - to get things going his way. I'd have to go back to my old post but it seems like I kept saying 3-4 years..........

Not sure how long I can keep adding on to that

I guess I'll treat it like I do the Cubs - Maybe Next Year

**Clones21** · 01-21-2010, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by ISUKyro

This is were I get torn in two.
I was a big time poster back a few times saying Mac needed time to make the program his - to get his players in - to get things going his way. I'd have to go back to my old post but it seems like I kept saying 3-4 years..........

Not sure how long I can keep adding on to that

I guess I'll treat it like I do the Cubs - Maybe Next Year

**gwoodclone** · 01-21-2010, 07:59 PM

I'm sticking behind Mac for the rest of the season, but if we don't make the Big Dance, I'll be hoping for JP to make a change. There's no point in calling for a coach's head in the middle of the season, especially when all is not yet lost. Making the NIT (which I think is most likely right now) would be a disappointment considering where our expectations were, but that would probably be enough for me to give him another year.

Some people here have a very inflated view of our basketball program; as if they think we're somebody like KU or UK or UCLA. Even in our "Glory Years", our greatest accomplishments are a few conference titles, ONE trip to the Elite Eight and being on the losing end of one of the biggest upsets in NCAA Tournament history. Yes, we had some very good years, and I'm not trying to diminish that. But we were horribly inconsistent. Orr's teams were terrible on the road. 3 out of Larry's 5 years we were 9th or worse in the Big 12. It's hard to have success here, especially consistent and sustained success.

That said, we are still good enough of a program that we should be able to get to some sort of post-season tournament at least once in four years. If we don't make it this year, then ultimately the coaching staff's jobs will have to be in question. But there are still a couple months left in this season, and with this team. We have to wait and see, and cheer for them for the rest of the year, before we decide to fire Coach (and especially before we start talking about replacements for him...).

**CYlent Bob** · 01-21-2010, 10:35 PM

I would say something, but my opinion means squat in this fight. Jamie Pollard set the bar fairly high when he fired the coach who took us to the second round of the NCAA tourney (with a bench shorter than what MacDermott is dealing with here) AND to the Final Four of the NIT.

Right now, we're looking at four straight years of the ISU basketball team watching the NCAA tourney on TV just like the rest of us. By Pollard's own standards, we should be looking to make a change....but we won't, because the only number that matters here is a date, not a won-loss record.

2015

**cycloneguy13** · 01-23-2010, 07:01 PM

jw how much the percentage will change after this last game.
As of right now
1. 41.92%
2. 58.08%

**ajk4st8** · 01-23-2010, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Recipe for chaotic living.

So is doing the same thing over and over .. expecting different results.

**mcblogerson** · 01-23-2010, 07:04 PM

I won't miss him if this team isn't at least playing in the NIT. The problem is, if he goes, our team will fall apart and have to be built from scratch again. Do we wait a year to see if things turn around or blow it up and wait at least 3 more years?

**ajk4st8** · 01-23-2010, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by mcblogerson

I won't miss him if this team isn't at least playing in the NIT. The problem is, if he goes, our team will fall apart and have to be built from scratch again. Do we wait a year to see if things turn around or blow it up and wait at least 3 more years?

BLow it up now..... find a recruiter that keeps the guys worthy of keeping. Let the rest transfer if necessary. A lot of our juniors on the team wont transfer, too late in the career.

**CyCrazy** · 01-23-2010, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by ajk4st8

So is doing the same thing over and over .. expecting different results.

To me thats beating your head against a wall..... which obviously 140 people on here want to do. Blind faith gets you no where, im totally at a loss why some people on here expect him to get it turned around after year 4. Im actually blown away how many people voted to keep him