Playing Colvin - Mac's biggest mistake

[Tre4ISU]

Had McDermott lifted the suspension, but left Colvin to sit on the bench and not play a single minute, no one would be saying anything here.

Right. If the suspension is lifted what difference does it make? He is either suspended or active. There was always the possibility he could play.

[JonDMiller]

Obviously, I don't personally know either of you, but that is exactly the impression your show has given me the last couple of weeks. There have been periods where I enjoyed it. The last couple weeks have come across to me as Dennis Miller-style ranting on Deace's part, just to have something to get people riled up. I drive home from work from Ankeny to Ames, and I can barely make it to Huxley with that show on.

I am not saying that we might not annoy people at times. I am saying that we are not saying things simply for effect. We don't do that.

[Cloned4Life]

I'm pretty sure most of the players on the team 3 years ago, if asked, would have also wanted Mike Taylor to be allowed to play.

Right before Mike was officially kicked off, after his last offense in the middle of that summer, I was told that several players walked into Mac's office and said something along the lines of "enough is enough with that kid...if Mike Taylor is still on this team, we won't be."

Don't know how much truth there is to that, but if it is true, then that shows this Colvin situation is much different that Taylor's.

[cycloneworld]

Should we question the whole team's integrity? Should the team not be involved in a mistake made against them?

We pay the coach to make those kinds of decisions...not the players. Just because the players unanimously vote for something doesn't make it right.

If a high school principal suspends a student, do you let the rest of the students vote to unsuspend him?

The sad thing is that we didn't even need him out there...

[khess83]

I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with :) (joking!) Must be my personality".

Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.

[CycloneErik]

I am not saying that we might not annoy people at times. I am saying that we are not saying things simply for effect. We don't do that.

OK. That's fine. What I am saying is that it comes across that way from my perception. I may be completely alone in that perception, and if so, it's all me.

[CycloneErik]

I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with :) (joking!) Must be my personality".

Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.

If all 3 (I think 4--right Jon?) of us are coming from similar churches, we should each know that none of us are better than anyone else. But any further and I probably send this to the cave.

[chuckd4735]

Right. If the suspension is lifted what difference does it make? He is either suspended or active. There was always the possibility he could play.

I'm more upset at the fact that he played than I am that the "suspension" was lifted. When I first heard that the suspension was lifted I figured it was done so we could use Colvin in an emergency situation, (ie. foul trouble or injuries). That way the kid is dressed and ready to go if needed.

The fact that he played last night, and was not needed, kind of made me think quite differently of McDermott.

[JonDMiller]

I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with :) (joking!) Must be my personality".

Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.

I am not refering to anyone I work with

[CycloneErik]

I am not refering to anyone I work with

Don't be Mouthy.

[chuckd4735]

Right before Mike was officially kicked off, after his last offense in the middle of that summer, I was told that several players walked into Mac's office and said something along the lines of "enough is enough with that kid...if Mike Taylor is still on this team, we won't be."

Don't know how much truth there is to that, but if it is true, then that shows this Colvin situation is much different that Taylor's.

If that is true I would be somewhat surprised. But if it is I will retract my statement.

[Tre4ISU]

I'm more upset at the fact that he played than I am that the "suspension" was lifted. When I first heard that the suspension was lifted I figured it was done so we could use Colvin in an emergency situation, (ie. foul trouble or injuries). That way the kid is dressed and ready to go if needed.

The fact that he played last night, and was not needed, kind of made me think quite differently of McDermott.

As far as discipline it doesn't matter. It is the principle. If he is not suspended, then he should be available to play at any time. I said that from the beginning. If he was going to be lifted, he should be able to play when we could use him. If he is going to be an "emergency" guy, then keep the suspension on and throw Dorr in.

[Clonefan32]

I wonder if Jon took the "moral high-ground" when the slew of Iowa football players got arrested and (in most cases) recieved a pretty nominal punishment.

[JonDMiller]

I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with :) (joking!) Must be my personality".

Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.

Dude, he said no such things on how anyone was morally inferior to him. You are cutting and splicing stuff

and Greg has judged himself here. When you say one thing and do another, there really isn't much to say

[CycloneErik]

As far as discipline it doesn't matter. It is the principle. If he is not suspended, then he should be available to play at any time. I said that from the beginning. If he was going to be lifted, he should be able to play when we could use him. If he is going to be an "emergency" guy, then keep the suspension on and throw Dorr in.

I pretty much agree, though I think Dorr in the backcourt wouldn't be pretty.