**Offical Kansas @ ISU Game Thread**

[acrozier22]

Stop ******** about the officials. We are turning the ball over left and right. Until we start playing better basketball, all we are doing is making excuses.

[HiltonMagic]

The refs are hugely favoring Kansas. It is so bad it is obvious that they aren't going to call fouls on KU.

umm, KU has 6, ISU has 4. yup, not calling fouls on KU.

[ISUAlum2002]

That's absolutely untrue. If you displace defensive player in a legal guarding position then it's a player control foul. There is a myth that you must be "set" in order to take a charge when in fact you just need to be in a legal guarding position.

Look up the rules before you ***** about them.

I'm quite aware of the rules, thanks. The KU player was not the primary defender on that play. He shuffled off of a pick and into the path of the offensive player. Regardless of the offensive player's upright or shoulder down position, its a defensive foul.

[Cyclone06]

What are they saying about these travels on TV?

Nothing. Lets not insinuate the refs are the problem. I've heard this on way to many occasions this year (not necessarily you Chris). Both the players and coaches are not living up to their potential and it is sad to watch.

Edit: Yep before I could get this post out a handfull of "the refs suck" came flying in. Please don't use the refs to justify our suckiness. Its flat out weak.

[ThatllDoCy]

Do we practice offense? It does not look like it.

[Clone_12]

We aren't mentally tough enough to beat anyone like this...(see to's, missed ft's, rebounding, bad shots, no accountability, etc...)

[Jeremy]

I have to echo those that say we should be blaming the refs. They aren't doing us any favors but we're simply getting handled at every position. Their D is making our guards look like 5th graders.

[GoShow97]

This is frustrating to say the least. I just don't see this team playing together plus we have ZERO guard play. Gmac seems to be in a state of intimidation. Something has got to change.

[acrozier22]

I'm quite aware of the rules, thanks. The KU player was not the primary defender on that play. He shuffled off of a pick and into the path of the offensive player. Regardless of the offensive player's upright or shoulder down position, its a defensive foul.

Actually you are not because you stated that it's not a charge if you lower your shoulder and the defensive player is not set.

Primary defender means nothing as well.

[ThatllDoCy]

Why take Ham out if he is not going to play in the 2nd anyway?

[ISUAlum2002]

Actually you are not because you stated that it's not a charge if you lower your shoulder and the defensive player is not set.

Primary defender means nothing as well.

Then there are a LOT of officials who are also unaware of the rules because in the majority of instances of that type of play, that is either a no-call or a defensive foul. So **** and moan about it all you want.

[Clone_12]

I don't see how the officiating can be the number thing that anyone notices so far out of this game.

[acrozier22]

Then there are a LOT of officials who are also unaware of the rules because in the majority of instances of that type of play, that is either a no-call or a defensive foul. So **** and moan about it all you want.

It's a tough call but it helps if you understand the rule, which you don't.

[michaelrr1]

TV announcers ripping Staiger.

[CIRISH]

Failure to block out on the defensive boards is killing us