Pre-Game Warm Ups: It matters!

**IowaStateClones** · 01-27-2010, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by 2forISU

I agree. Every coach I played for said, take shots you are going to take in the game. If you are a post guy 15ft and in.

I may be wrong but I don't see Hamilton or Dendy shooting up threes in warm ups

**Dave19642006** · 01-27-2010, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by IowaStateClones

Yes because you KNOW that Mac is afraid.

All I will say ..is this . Look at his press conferences adn the statement that his players are "sensitive". He is not a wussy, but I believe he will have a exedus of players if he puts the hammer on them. THAT is why I believe he is afraid. Sorry maybe I should have clarified this more. I just figured you would understand.

**WalkingCY** · 01-27-2010, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by larrysarmy

It's hard to say for sure...I'm sure plenty of teams have a casual warm-up and do fine. But were struggling here...something has to change.

FYI - This coach at one time worked under Tim Floyd, I'm pretty sure he got it from him.

There is a lot to be said about your findings. I agree with you. I mean, you can see the lack of discipline our team currently represents during the game - yelling at each other after an opponet made basket...etc.... This season has been horrible, and something needs to be changed.

Maybe take the warm-ups a bit more seriously, and have the coach get on his guys a TON more. Can't hurt. Or else we will be looking at another barely .500+ or under .500 season again. At that point, I will be done with this guy at ISU.

**Dave19642006** · 01-27-2010, 09:35 AM

Hey a positive....only 3.5 games back

**IowaStateClones** · 01-27-2010, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by WalkingCY

There is a lot to be said about your findings. I agree with you. I mean, you can see the lack of discipline our team currently represents during the game - yelling at each other after an opponet made basket...etc.... This season has been horrible, and something needs to be changed.

Maybe take the warm-ups a bit more seriously, and have the coach get on his guys a TON more. Can't hurt. Or else we will be looking at another barely .500+ or under .500 season again. At that point, I will be done with this guy at ISU.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, you don't know what they are saying most likely it is motivation.

**GoShow97** · 01-27-2010, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by WalkingCY

There is a lot to be said about your findings. I agree with you. I mean, you can see the lack of discipline our team currently represents during the game - yelling at each other after an opponent made basket...etc.... This season has been horrible, and something needs to be changed.

Maybe take the warm-ups a bit more seriously, and have the coach get on his guys a TON more. Can't hurt. Or else we will be looking at another barely .500+ or under .500 season again. At that point, I will be done with this guy at ISU.

I agree. I will also add that I remember alot of complaints during the Morgan era of how undisciplined those teams seemed to be and how they seemed to be lacking in basic fundamentals. When Gmac was brought in, it was said that discipline and fundamentals would again take focus with ISU basketball. Boy, were they wrong.

One thing is for certain, this team has not responded to Gmac's current methods so yeah I would like to see some kind of change with his approach. If nothing else it makes it look like he is at least trying something to get this team playing up to their potential. That's all I ask. CB having only one rebound against Kansas speaks volumes.

Something needs to change.

**IowaStateClones** · 01-27-2010, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by GoShow97

I agree. I will also add that I remember alot of complaints during the Morgan era of how undisciplined those teams seemed to be and how they seemed to be lacking in basic fundamentals. When Gmac was brought in, it was said that discipline and fundamentals would again take focus with ISU basketball. Boy, were they wrong.

One thing is for certain, this team has not responded to Gmac's current methods so yeah I would like to see some kind of change with his approach. If nothing else it makes it look like he is at least trying something to get this team playing up to their potential. That's all I ask. CB having only one rebound against Kansas speaks volumes.

Something needs to change.

Speaks volumes about Brackins, it really doesnt reflect much of GMac. When it is game time it is on the player to hustle for boards. Do you really think cb needs more help from gmac to learn how to rebound?

**ricochet** · 01-27-2010, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by larrysarmy

I've seen every home game this year and the one thing I don't understand is our warm up behavior. Example: Versus KU...I saw several players shooting fade away three's, trying to do crazy dunks and during the lay-up drill...we had several up and under attempts that would fall no where near the hoop.

I don't recall us doing this but it brings up a question. Isn't dunking during pregame warm ups a technical foul? I noticed that Kansas did it but maybe there is a distinction between the early warm ups and the final one just before the game starts.

**2forISU** · 01-27-2010, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by IowaStateClones

I may be wrong but I don't see Hamilton or Dendy shooting up threes in warm ups

I hope Dendy is shooting three's he should be shooting free throws the whole time.

**markshir** · 01-27-2010, 09:55 AM

Yes, it is a technical foul to dunk during warmups. Don't know that I've ever seen it called however.

**tazclone** · 01-27-2010, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Dave19642006

All I will say ..is this . Look at his press conferences adn the statement that his players are "sensitive". He is not a wussy, but I believe he will have a exedus of players if he puts the hammer on them. THAT is why I believe he is afraid. Sorry maybe I should have clarified this more. I just figured you would understand.

IMO- mac changed after WJ left and started to be nicey nice with the players not trying to hurt their feelings. I think since the colvin incident he has changed back toward what he was before and i like that. I think he has found, with the Lucca incident, that even if you are nicey nice, these kids can screw you. so why not coach the way he wants.

**Final42b** · 01-27-2010, 09:58 AM

Everybody in the Big12 warms up this way these days. If you dont believe me go really early and you will often see the other teams pretty much doing a dunk contest. I think the point of warm ups is just to get the guys loose and relaxed, no need for intense strict drills this isnt 1970.

**larrysarmy** · 01-27-2010, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by ricochet;1505617[B

]I don't recall us doing this[/B] but it brings up a question. Isn't dunking during pregame warm ups a technical foul? I noticed that Kansas did it but maybe there is a distinction between the early warm ups and the final one just before the game starts.

Maybe not "send it in big fella!" type of dunks. But plenty of near attempts...and then only lay it in. Again...what's the purpose?

The do quite a bit of dunking prior to the refs on the floor.

**CYdTracked** · 01-27-2010, 10:00 AM

I was actually wondering the other day how we usually come out of the locker room late all the time at halftime and barely get a chance to shoot around if that contributes to how we seem to start flat in the first few minutes of the 2nd half.

**larrysarmy** · 01-27-2010, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Final42b

Everybody in the Big12 warms up this way these days. If you dont believe me go really early and you will often see the other teams pretty much doing a dunk contest. I think the point of warm ups is just to get the guys loose and relaxed, no need for intense strict drills this isnt 1970.

Worked for Floyd.....

just sayin