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  1. 01-28-2010, 12:12 PM #31
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Quote Originally Posted by SCNCY View Post
    Yeah, my bad. I dont know the whole story, but i have always been told that we were asking about one of his assistants. At the time, pressure was on him for winning more then he already was and when we were offering our next coach more then him, he took the job.

    You could be correct on the assistant thing too. I know it was "accidental" that we got him. At least the AD was talking to the right people.
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    We called Orr to ask about Bill Frieder. It is my understanding at the time of first contact with Orr ISU didn't know what they were paying but Orr was interested to hearing more about ISU. ISU didn't know the dollar amount at the time of the first call and that was that. Orr was just as much won over by his visit to Ames as the high salary.
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Quote Originally Posted by ddisu View Post
    You could be correct on the assistant thing too. I know it was "accidental" that we got him. At least the AD was talking to the right people.
    It wasn't accidental that we got him, it was accidental that we found he had any interest at all. It wasn't like ISU offered him the highest salary at the time in the NCAA by accident. They had to go get him after hearing about his interest.
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Did we ever talk to Jeff Capel before he took the Oklahoma job or was that just a rumor that floated around???

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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Great post, kudos to you! I always enjoy looking back at past decisions.

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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonefan32 View Post
    So while we are at it, does anyone want to put together a list of coaches we looked at before we hired McD? Maybe this is a trend, maybe Iowa State isn't as marketable as we like to think.
    I think McD was the only candidate. It only took JP 4 days after he fired WM to hire McD
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Quote Originally Posted by gogagig View Post
    Can't be negative. McD hasn't made post season ever. What's the worst that can happen with a new coach??????
    See Iowa after the Tom Davis Debacle. Though I do think Lick will turn it around there, it has been a decade of pure trash there that makes our team/program look like Roses.

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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

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    It wasn't accidental that we got him, it was accidental that we found he had any interest at all. It wasn't like ISU offered him the highest salary at the time in the NCAA by accident. They had to go get him after hearing about his interest.

    I think we are just spliting hairs here. I agree with you. By "accidental", I mean he wasn't really on our radar. He initiated the interest and ISU did a great job by not dropping the ball and getting Orr to Ames.
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Lopes was a great option at the time. He was a Kelvin Sampson Protege. Then he got fired in 2005 for recruiting violations. he basically proved he was as slimey as Sampson. We actually got lucky we did not get who we wanted.
    Nobody but HB knows for sure. You pretty much know nothing....like Knownothing would like to say.
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

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    I think we are just spliting hairs here. I agree with you. By "accidental", I mean he wasn't really on our radar. He initiated the interest and ISU did a great job by not dropping the ball and getting Orr to Ames.
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

    Lewd point Move on!
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

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    The Soooooo Pig Cheer...... it Creeped him out.

    Also, after getting hammered at K-State, he decided it is much easier to win in the Valley and not worried about getting fired every other year.
    Melvin got it exactly right here. Funny, but altman looked like he wanted nothing to do with the pig cheer, and it certainly made him uncomfortable........he probably had a what the hell moment and received clarity.
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    Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003

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