Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003
My thought was: the list could (and should) have been better
Was that because
a. BVD was such a bad AD ? Should an AD have an "emergency shortlist" in case a coach can't function (not just leaving or fired ?), or:
b. ISU was not a premier destination as some of us thought it was ?
c. The sideshow gave ISU a negative image (assistant coaches found themselves locked out of their offices, two starters were arrested with marijuana posession, another was arrested with public intoxication, 2 players with no remaining eligibility were arrested with public intoxication - 1 also with marijuana possession and one former coach was charged with child pornography)
I'm just curious.
I know a lot of the fans would like to have McD replaced, but we can learn from the past that it's not easy to find a new coach.
1. None of the candidates (Altman might be an exception because we don't know how he'd deal with working in big conference) can be considered successful. They might be rising stars in 2003, but so was McD when we hired him.
2. When JP fired WM, looked like he already had a name. Does he have an emergency list ready (I know he did when GC left but I wasn't sure whether CPR was the first choice) ?
3. Do we have good candidates who are really interested in coming to Ames ? Lopes and Altman didn't want to come here. McClain did but didn't get the job. Lebo didn't want to because his recruiting area was in the SEC
Just a thought. Personally, I want to see the team play better but when McD is our coach and when he's still our coach, I will keep on supporting him and the program, like the others: D-Mac, GC, WM, LE. It's up to JP and the administration to decide. However, I do respect people who want to see changes made, there's nothing wrong with having different opinions because we are all Cyclones !
Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003
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Melvin 
Also, after getting hammered at K-State, he decided it is much easier to win in the Valley
I guess I don't agree that he got "hammered" at K-State. He was there 4 years. They went to the NCAA once, the NIT twice (once getting to the final 4) and he was named coach of the year in the Big 8 once.
He didn't light the world on fire, but it sure looks pretty good from where we are right now.
Re: Candidates to Replace LE back in 2003
As I've stated several times. We would end up with a coach that makes everyone say "Who?"...
Of course that was the case with CPR and everyone is thrilled. Hard to say what would happen but there is a better than fighting chance that we would go backwards instead of forwards.
I don't like where we are and am disappointed in the GMac tenure to date. I shudder to think at what would happen if we tried to go another direction yet again.
No win situation....for now I will continue to root for our team and coach because the best thing for this situation is for both to find success.
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cycloneworld Jeter and McDermott were the only ones who officially interviewed in 2006 right? Maybe JP talked to more people than that...
McDermott was a good hire at the time. He could have had the K-State or Missouri jobs or waited a year and had the Iowa job.
GMac and Jeter were the only known candidates in the last search but there were probably feelers sent out to other guys at that time like Mark Turgeon. GMac was offered the K-State job prior to ISU's offer and I think Arizona State was also very interested. GMac was the best guy available and interested at that time.
The search that ended up with Morgan getting the job was a fiasco by an incompetent AD. Lebo's wife was supposedly the one who turned down ISU, not Lebo himself. Lebo will likely not last much longer at Auburn. Altman didn't want the job at that time as well as some others.
I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread but the rumored leading candidate at the time Orr was hired was Coach K who was at Army at that time.
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cykadelic2 GMac and Jeter were the only known candidates in the last search but there were probably feelers sent out to other guys at that time like Mark Turgeon. GMac was offered the K-State job prior to ISU's offer and I think Arizona State was also very interested. GMac was the best guy available and interested at that time.
The search that ended up with Morgan getting the job was a fiasco by an incompetent AD. Lebo's wife was supposedly the one who turned down ISU, not Lebo himself. Lebo will likely not last much longer at Auburn. Altman didn't want the job at that time as well as some others.
I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread but the rumored leading candidate at the time Orr was hired was Coach K who was at Army at that time.
Yet it still produced going deep into the NIT the first year and then the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament the very next..
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marothisu Yet it still produced going deep into the NIT the first year and then the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament the very next..
Exactly, a very underachieving team the 2nd year who only managed to squeak in to the tourney after a strong end of season run. It never should have been in doubt that year.
What did we do the next year???? Oh yeah, nothing.
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cycloneworld Like who? Nobody would touch the job with a 10 ft pole. The head coach of Wyoming and Tennessee Tech turned us down for heaven's sake.
For what it's worth, and it isn't worth anything, McClain was never offered the job. He waited for it to be offered and it wasn't, so he left town in a huff.
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Exactly, a very underachieving team the 2nd year who only managed to squeak in to the tourney after a strong end of season run. It never should have been in doubt that year.
Oh, come now.....would a very underachieving team have beaten 2nd ranked Kansas on the road that season? We didn't "squeak" into the tournament, if we truly had, we would have had a much lower seed than #9.
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cykadelic2 GMac and Jeter were the only known candidates in the last search but there were probably feelers sent out to other guys at that time like Mark Turgeon. GMac was offered the K-State job prior to ISU's offer and I think Arizona State was also very interested. GMac was the best guy available and interested at that time.
The search that ended up with Morgan getting the job was a fiasco by an incompetent AD. Lebo's wife was supposedly the one who turned down ISU, not Lebo himself. Lebo will likely not last much longer at Auburn. Altman didn't want the job at that time as well as some others.
I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread but the rumored leading candidate at the time Orr was hired was Coach K who was at Army at that time.
Speaking of Arizona State, how did they get Herb Sendek? He has done a nice job there.
2006–2007 8-22
2007–2008 21-12 NIT Quarterfinals
2008–2009 25-10 NCAA 2nd Round
2009–2010 12-7
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RhoadsRage Did we ever talk to Jeff Capel before he took the Oklahoma job or was that just a rumor that floated around???
Anybody got a freakin answer for me here???? I think I heard this before the hiring of McDumb*** AND if I did, we were stupid for passing on this guy!!
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RhoadsRage Anybody got a freakin answer for me here???? I think I heard this before the hiring of McDumb*** AND if I did, we were stupid for passing on this guy!!
As far as I know, no.
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cyclone13 As far as I know, no.
I am almost sure I heard his name in the mix when he coached at VCU but it could've been media speculation. Either way....he would've been WAY better choice than McD I think. At least he knew what it took to win in a top conference even if only as a player. AND last I checked, he has done more at Oklahoma than McD has here, even if it is minimal. AND at least his teams make it to the tourney!!!
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[QUOTE=imnclone;1512873]Speaking of Arizona State, how did they get Herb Sendek? He has done a nice job there.
He was tired of the expectation at NC State. The fans were getting restless because he kept on losing to UNC and Duke (8-38 against them) and they kept on comparing him with the previous coach, who is none other than Jimmy Valvano (Jimmy V). So there was a lot of feeling of never being truly accepted and ASU came up with lots of money as well as the chance to build a program (someone puts it as "the WBB team sells more tickets than the MBB" before Hendek arrived.
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RhoadsRage I am almost sure I heard his name in the mix when he coached at VCU but it could've been media speculation. Either way....he would've been WAY better choice than McD I think. At least he knew what it took to win in a top conference even if only as a player. AND last I checked, he has done more at Oklahoma than McD has here, even if it is minimal. AND at least his teams make it to the tourney!!!
Sir Charles Barkley briefly touched his name during the conversation related to the hiring of Gene Chizik. he said that Capel wanted to go coach Auburn back in 2004
Charles Barkley outraged by Auburn Tigers' hiring of Gene Chizik - ESPN
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kg-cyclone Altman also left for Arkansas, then returned to Creighton...Hard to say why.
Should have seen his face when they introduced him and then 'called' the Hogs. The look on his face (his wife's too for that matter) was 'what the hell am I doing??'
He was gone shortly after.
