we will get better in the coming seasons...

[Bigguns]

I still think we will get much better this year.

[BigBake]

Big Bake- How about the fact that every other coach we've had here over the last 30 years has won?

And the last few have brought bad PR, scandal and disappointing seasons as well.

[Dryburn]

Here are some simple facts and then a question for any of you who are actually thinking this team will be better next year.

Lucca is already gone. MG and CB are likely gone next year. So that is (in conference games only) 44.8 points and 18.6 rebounds per game that must be replaced just to reach the same level of production as this year, which as we know was not a very productive year. (Of course, maybe the defense is going to suddenly become one of the best in the Big 12). Anyway. so who is going to step up and get those points and rebounds, from the players on the team now and those recruits and redshirts that will be available next year? I can't wait to hear this.

[cyclonenum1]

Here are some simple facts and then a question for any of you who are actually thinking this team will be better next year.

Lucca is already gone. MG and CB are likely gone next year. So that is (in conference games only) 44.8 points and 18.6 rebounds per game that must be replaced just to reach the same level of production as this year, which as we know was not a very productive year. (Of course, maybe the defense is going to suddenly become one of the best in the Big 12). Anyway. so who is going to step up and get those points and rebounds, from the players on the team now and those recruits and redshirts that will be available next year? I can't wait to hear this.

Wes Eikmeier and Jordan Dykstra?

[ISUFan22]

Outside of this website, there really isn't a lot of complaining, or as much as one would think after reading this site. It is posters on this site over estimating talent on this team, and I've said on here before, it's also posters on this site with a low bball IQ. Honestly, would Ham and Lucca or Scott C be starting on another Big 12 team?

Not true.

Pieces are coming together, it's just not all there. We will probably have a more complete team next year, even with the loss of CB and Gilstrap.

That could be true but is highly debatable.

Quit complaining for the time being and support this team.

Why does being upset with results and team support have to be mutually exclusive?

Prior to the season I think everyone forgot we did not have very good guard Play. I really thought DG would be better than he has been as far as an offensive playmaker but he has not. I said something before the season to the effect of DG or one of the guards having to be a playmaker for us to succeed. It hasn't happened and no one has consistently been explosive at the 2.

Maybe McDermott should have quelled enthusiasm then instead of saying this could be a "special season".

Right, he should have said, "Don't expect much out of us, we are going to suck because DG won't ever do what he does in practice."

The fact is, Greg was clearly really high on this team preseason. The comments he made preseason this year compared to the past years certainly made it obvious he expected more from this group than his previous Cyclone teams. Didn't get that at all. To sit here and put all our team struggles on DG and the guards is very naive.

[dcxme1183]

Why does being upset with results and team support have to be mutually exclusive?

I get frustrated by this too. I watch every game and cheer hard in my cardinal and gold, but it doesn't mean I turn a blind eye to the issues. Caring about something means wanting the best possible outcome and it can be difficult to see mistakes repeat themselves when you know mistakes get in the way of realized potential.

Yes, there is a difference between ******** about problems and rationally discussing them and sometimes the line gets blurry. But that doesn't make everyone who tries to discuss the problems a whiner who doesn't support the team.

I guess we just like false dichotomies. If you protest the war it means you don't support the troops. If you protest a policy it means you don't support our government. Life is easier in black and white.

[greatshu]

Im willing to wait it out as well, i like the recruits we are starting to get. However if we do have a chance at a really good coach like the dayton coach id be willing for a change.

I totally agree. Dayton coach is a great coach... and nice guy (like McDermott). I had lunch with him when I was working there.

Let's hire him.

[greatshu]

What we do not have is... confidence and lack of solid guard play. Our guards have turn balls over WAAAAAAAAAAAY too many times. Our PGs cant shoot like Sharron Collins, its easy to guard someone who cant really shoot except layups.

[Tre4ISU]

Not true.



That could be true but is highly debatable.



Why does being upset with results and team support have to be mutually exclusive?







The fact is, Greg was clearly really high on this team preseason. The comments he made preseason this year compared to the past years certainly made it obvious he expected more from this group than his previous Cyclone teams. Didn't get that at all. To sit here and put all our team struggles on DG and the guards is very naive.

OK, so we have Gilstrap and Brackins who both putting up very solid numbers. Where would you say the main problem on the floor has been? It is the guard play. How is naive to think that? Watch game. Our guards don't defend other guards. Baylor and KSU both had guys go of. Not only that, but on the other end they don't create. I still hold to the theory this team practices very differently than they play. I don't know that because I don't go to practice but with the things Mac and other coaches have said, I think that is a pretty good guess at why Mac said what he said and it hasn't come to fruition.

[WalkingCY]

Watch attendance for the end of this year, and then figure in way lower than that for all of next year. ISU especially doesn't have the money to do that either.

I can't believe people think McD is going to magically learn how to coach at a major D1 school all of a sudden.

The McD experiment is over folks. He/we failed. Best to move on and make a quick, clean break.

well put.

[greatshu]

OK, so we have Gilstrap and Brackins who both putting up very solid numbers. Where would you say the main problem on the floor has been? It is the guard play. How is naive to think that? Watch game. Our guards don't defend other guards. Baylor and KSU both had guys go of. Not only that, but on the other end they don't create. I still hold to the theory this team practices very differently than they play. I don't know that because I don't go to practice but with the things Mac and other coaches have said, I think that is a pretty good guess at why Mac said what he said and it hasn't come to fruition.

There is NOTHING wrong with our big guys. They score and defend VERY well.
Our guards cant shoot and DG looks lost and just dribbling around top of the key.

McDermott, please play Colvin as PG. Least he makes some plays.

[ISUFan22]

OK, so we have Gilstrap and Brackins who both putting up very solid numbers. Where would you say the main problem on the floor has been? It is the guard play. How is naive to think that? Watch game. Our guards don't defend other guards. Baylor and KSU both had guys go of. Not only that, but on the other end they don't create. I still hold to the theory this team practices very differently than they play. I don't know that because I don't go to practice but with the things Mac and other coaches have said, I think that is a pretty good guess at why Mac said what he said and it hasn't come to fruition.

Gilstrap turned it over in a critical spot Saturday. Craig was great, but him being great this season has been the exception, not the rule.

The problem with this team is generally not individuals - but the team aspect they just don't seem to grasp.

[cycloneG]

There is NOTHING wrong with our big guys. They score and defend VERY well.
Our guards cant shoot and DG looks lost and just dribbling around top of the key.

McDermott, please play Colvin as PG. Least he makes some plays.

You might want to check the box score from saturday. Colvin had 4 assists to 3 turnovers while DG had 5 assists to 1 turnover. I'm still amazed by people who think Colvin should be starting ahead of DG.

[dcxme1183]

You might want to check the box score from saturday. Colvin had 4 assists to 3 turnovers while DG had 5 assists to 1 turnover. I'm still amazed by people who think Colvin should be starting ahead of DG.

Maybe because they watch the game instead of just checking the box score. Colvin's stats don't always compare, but he is always pushing ahead, trying to make things happen. His passes are crisper and his court vision is better. Heck, some of the turnovers are due to his teammates not expecting a pass. Had they gotten good guard play like that all year, they'd be ready for a pass.

[cycloneG]

Maybe because they watch the game instead of just checking the box score. Colvin's stats don't always compare, but he is always pushing ahead, trying to make things happen. His passes are crisper and his court vision is better. Heck, some of the turnovers are due to his teammates not expecting a pass. Had they gotten good guard play like that all year, they'd be ready for a pass.

Dude, I go to every game and DG is better right now than Colvin. I hate turnovers and he turns the ball over way too much. DG is the best point guard this team has right now.