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**bellzisu** · 03-10-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Frak

OK, I'm not bagging on people who can't afford tickets. They have every right to be a fan and I'm sure that JP encourages it. Every little bit helps. BUT, to think that your criticism should be taken seriously and then be offended when it's not is idiotic. It's not that your opinion is meaningless, but it shouldn't be thought of as super important either. It, justifiably, should rate pretty low down the ladder.

So if this kid didn't bash Scotty and DG, and just left it that he was upset and concerned with the direction of the team. Would people still be calling this kid a DB like everyard and others???

What happens if this kid someone had the cure for cancer in his letter to Pollard. (Just throwing something radical out there. Or maybe had a check for $2,000,000 in hand, written out to ISU) Would Pollard treat him the same way???

Who says this kid doesn't some day have $5,000 a year to donate, but because of Pollard being arrogant back when he was 20 decides not to donate??

**marothisu** · 03-10-2010, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

So if this kid didn't bash Scotty and DG, and just left it that he was upset and concerned with the direction of the team. Would people still be calling this kid a DB like everyard and others???

What happens if this kid someone had the cure for cancer in his letter to Pollard. (Just throwing something radical out there. Or maybe had a check for $2,000,000 in hand, written out to ISU) Would Pollard treat him the same way???

Who says this kid doesn't some day have $5,000 a year to donate, but because of Pollard being arrogant back when he was 20 decides not to donate??

Bingo...if you have a lot of money to give, you can basically make an AD of a program your puppet. A multi millionaire can say "If you don't do this, I'm not going to donate $5 million" and the AD might say "oh ****...that's mad money. I'm going to listen to this guy. This is good for our program!" But the guy might not actually know what he's talking about.

**Frak** · 03-10-2010, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by marothisu

Which begs the question. Do people who say, buy season basketball tickets, really always know what they're talking about when it comes to basketball?

Of course not. But if you are a paying customer AND you send a halfway respectful letter, you don't get that kind of response. I've sent multiple letters to Pollard critizing various things. But I do it in a respectful way and I am a paying customer.

**usedcarguy** · 03-10-2010, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by HawkfromNorwalk

I added my two cents because on the way home from work I heard the issue on the radio. I had an emotional reaction to what I heard on the radio. I felt like I should voice my opinion. I did so. As I said above, nothing I have added to this conversation is anything out of the ordinary or trollish. If my screen name was Cy#1NationalChampsBaby you wouldn't even look twice at what I said. Too bad some people can't go outside their comfort zone once in a while and smell the flowers...

Spoken words can have a MUCH different meaning by simple voice inflection and empasis on a particular syllable. The radio guys appear to have made the response sound much worse than it likely was. I think you fell for the emotion and spin.

**Cymon** · 03-10-2010, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

It seems like at least 7 out of 10 people in this thread think what Pollard did was the right thing to do, so there isn't any safety in numbers going on. There are people in this thread who think that Pollard should have taken the high road, but their voices are quickly drowned out.

I think Pollard should have taken the high road and not responded. I am not Jamie Pollard though. He did what he saw fit. So be it. Jamie Pollard is the AD for the University that I support. He was put there by the President of the University I support. If I had a disagreement with the way things were being handled, I might be inclined to let Jamie know my feelings but, I would never send that out to the media.

**bellzisu** · 03-10-2010, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Frak

Or maybe he's your buddy since you both are from Norwalk? Let's see, he just got done calling our AD a dipsh#t. Yeah, he's represented himself well...typical of their ilk.

Yup.. All people from Norwalk are best buds... Heck I had him over for beer tonight. Duhhhhhhh.... He called our AD a ******* which I will agree with right now too... I don't believe he is one, just the way he handled it. He only came out and said that cause you guys keep pushing him and pushing him acting like his opinion is null and void because he is a Hawk fan.

He defended himself then you break him down more.

**Frak** · 03-10-2010, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

So if this kid didn't bash Scotty and DG, and just left it that he was upset and concerned with the direction of the team. Would people still be calling this kid a DB like everyard and others???

What happens if this kid someone had the cure for cancer in his letter to Pollard. (Just throwing something radical out there. Or maybe had a check for $2,000,000 in hand, written out to ISU) Would Pollard treat him the same way???

Who says this kid doesn't some day have $5,000 a year to donate, but because of Pollard being arrogant back when he was 20 decides not to donate??

If the kid doesn't bash players and left it as he was upset and concerned, and JP STILL sent that response, then I think you and your buddy from Norwalk have a point. I'm sure that Pollard got plenty of emails during the season just like that. Probably many after each bad loss.

**HawkfromNorwalk** · 03-10-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by usedcarguy

Spoken words can have a MUCH different meaning by simple voice inflection and empasis on a particular syllable. The radio guys appear to have made the response sound much worse than it likely was. I think you fell for the emotion and spin.

I didn't "fall" for anything. Your AD called out a member of the fanbase. WRONG!!! You don't do that! As AD, if you don't agree, ignore him or send him a generic reply, don't call him out.

**Cymon** · 03-10-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by marothisu

Bingo...if you have a lot of money to give, you can basically make an AD of a program your puppet. A multi millionaire can say "If you don't do this, I'm not going to donate $5 million" and the AD might say "oh ****...that's mad money. I'm going to listen to this guy. This is good for our program!" But the guy might not actually know what he's talking about.

Welcome to the world of college athletics.

**marothisu** · 03-10-2010, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cymon

Welcome to the world of college athletics.

Yep, just stating the obvious. It's sad but true.

**Frak** · 03-10-2010, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by bellzisu

Yup.. All people from Norwalk are best buds... Heck I had him over for beer tonight. Duhhhhhhh.... He called our AD a ******* which I will agree with right now too... I don't believe he is one, just the way he handled it. He only came out and said that cause you guys keep pushing him and pushing him acting like his opinion is null and void because he is a Hawk fan.

He defended himself then you break him down more.

Actually, hok fans' opinions ARE null and void here...at least for many of us. People with a vested interest in seeing our programs fail shouldn't be taken seriously on this board. A vast majority of them are idiots anyway.

**HawkfromNorwalk** · 03-10-2010, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cymon

I think Pollard should have taken the high road and not responded. I am not Jamie Pollard though. He did what he saw fit. So be it. Jamie Pollard is the AD for the University that I support. He was put there by the President of the University I support. If I had a disagreement with the way things were being handled, I might be inclined to let Jamie know my feelings but, I would never send that out to the media.

So you agree with the Hawk fan? Dear Lord what is going on? My mind can't comprehend it.!.!.?

**Cymon** · 03-10-2010, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by HawkfromNorwalk

I didn't "fall" for anything. Your AD called out a member of the fanbase. WRONG!!! You don't do that! As AD, if you don't agree, ignore him or send him a generic reply, don't call him out.

I think he did do that though. Now what?

Why do you care? As a Hawk fan, you should be delighted.

**HawkfromNorwalk** · 03-10-2010, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by Frak

Actually, hok fans' opinions ARE null and void here...at least for many of us. People with a vested interest in seeing our programs fail shouldn't be taken seriously on this board.

How do you know I have a vested interest in ISU's failure? You a mind reader?

**Cymon** · 03-10-2010, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by HawkfromNorwalk

So you agree with the Hawk fan? Dear Lord what is going on? My mind can't comprehend it.!.!.?

I never said I didn't like Hawk fans, I said they were arrogant. Many of my friends are Hawk fans and they all like to tell me what they think ISU should do.