Wayne Morgan to Iowa?

**Clones85'** · 04-07-2010, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

There is more than enough talent there to make us competitive in the Big 12. Stinson, Blaylock, Clark, Hubalek, Taggert, Degand, Carr and Davis are better athletes to compete in the Big 12 with than anyone (save Brackins, Gilstrap and WJ) than anyone Greg brought in.

Like I said "good" recruiter but not great

**Clonefan32** · 04-07-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

Stinson, Will, Clark, Carr, Taggert, Stinnett, Westbrook (at Minn.) are all players that normally hard to get to the State of Iowa.

+1

**Clonefan32** · 04-07-2010, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Like I said "good" recruiter but not great

I see your point, but I think good is a relative term. Getting that talent to the state of Iowa is a feat.

**azn4cy** · 04-07-2010, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

There is more than enough talent there to make us competitive in the Big 12. Stinson, Blaylock, Clark, Hubalek, Taggert, Degand, Carr and Davis are better athletes to compete in the Big 12 with than anyone (save Brackins, Gilstrap and WJ) than anyone Greg brought in.

I always find it interesting that the same people who argue that Hamilton, with his under 5 rebounds a game, is going to be an elite big 12 center, also rag on all the players who leave as if they never did anything.. Tasheed Carr.. beat Texas by himself in OT, was a valuable guy off the bench that year. Degand was starting for an NC state team that did far better than ISU this season.. Hubalek and Taggart were both solid pieces. Just because people call Wayne Morgan an "excellent recruiter", doesn't mean he needs to go get the Kevin Durants and John Walls of the world to justify the title

**Wesley** · 04-07-2010, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Cyched

Sounds like what some people on here wanted us to do and bring back LE with Wayne as head of recruiting.

Can we do any worse than status quo?

**bos** · 04-07-2010, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

I see your point, but I think good is a relative term. Getting that talent to the state of Iowa is a feat.

True, but getting them to perform is what counts.

**BooneCy** · 04-07-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by CarolinaCy

So Iowa hires a new coach and suddenly they have pulled a complete 180 and are now headed in the right direction? The new coach has been there for what, a week? Good grief.

Hello!!

http://www.letsbemadagain.com

Duh

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 04-07-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Define strong...
Year one we were an NIT team, year two we were a 9-seed in the NCAA Tourney that for all purposes sneak into the tournament as we were "outside bubble" for most of the year, and year three we go from preseason top 25 to really bad season punctuated with an overblown scheduling scam and APR issues that saw us losing scholarships. And his record got progressively worse each year at ISU.

Better than we have now? I'll give you that. But strong???

We lost to the eventual national champs in the second round!

**azn4cy** · 04-07-2010, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by bos

True, but getting them to perform is what counts.

Luckily for Iowa, if they do hire Carl Winslow, they don't have to worry about his game time coaching.

**swarthmoreCY** · 04-07-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

I think they are headed in the right direction simply because they realized a failing model, and did something about it. He may end up not being better than Lick, but Lick's model wasn't working, and they made a change in philosophy...so as of now, yes they are headed in a much better direction than they were before.

Did you post this after Davis/Alford left as well?
All that can be said is they are headed in a different direction.

**bos** · 04-07-2010, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by azn4cy

Luckily for Iowa, if they do hire Carl Winslow, they don't have to worry about his game time coaching.

Does he play a cop in everything he is in? Oops, off topic.

**azn4cy** · 04-07-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by bos

Does he play a cop in everything he is in? Oops, off topic.

He can also help McCaffery rescue the University of Iowa from a German terrorist, if it comes to that.

**jdoggivjc** · 04-07-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy

We lost to the eventual national champs in the second round!

And we barely beat a very overrated Minnesota team to get there...

**swarthmoreCY** · 04-07-2010, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Go2Guy

Wow - excellent point, with that kind of record, please remind me again why Jamie fired Wayne Morgan and his entire staff?

What record?
You would actually base the decision of three games over three years? Of course not. But hey, any attempt to bash ISU athletics, even if illogical, is worth it.

**Clonefan32** · 04-07-2010, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY

Did you this post this after Davis/Alford left as well?
All that can be said is they are headed in a different direction.

When you are as hopelessly bad as Iowa was this year, a different direction is a good direction. It was a failed model, with little to no returning talent ot get better with. A change in philosophy, and a change in personnel can't hurt at that point, and as such, yes I think they are in going in the right direction.

In my opinion, I would rather by taking a chance than lying stagnant like I feel we are.