Time to bring Freddy back to Ames

**gogagig** · 04-10-2010, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

We couldn't get a great coach within a year of an Elite 8 appearance. That says a lot to me.

Actually it was 2 years. But your point is still valid.

**alarson** · 04-10-2010, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

We couldn't get a great coach within a year of an Elite 8 appearance. That says a lot to me.

We also fired him pretty late in the game (may), and imho, gave him a pretty ****** treatment. So we had a more limited pool of talent and possibly an image of an AD that wouldnt stand behind its coach.

**ISUFB** · 04-10-2010, 04:22 PM

COACH BILLIE GILLESPIE (sp?)

**hursts** · 04-10-2010, 04:23 PM

Ok so the people that are against hiring Fred Hoiberg would probably like ISU to hire a mid major type coach that has taken his team to three straight NCAA tournaments and was a proven winner as a college coach? Oh yeah, we already did that with McDermott and it was a complete disaster.

**alarson** · 04-10-2010, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by hursts

Ok so the people that are against hiring Fred Hoiberg would probably like ISU to hire a mid major type coach that has taken his team to three straight NCAA tournaments and was a proven winner as a college coach? Oh yeah, we already did that with McDermott and it was a complete disaster.

Whoever we hire will be a gamble. Fact is: guy with midmajor head coaching experience and NCAAs would always be a better bet than guy with no head coaching experience.

**SCNCY** · 04-10-2010, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by hursts

Ok so the people that are against hiring Fred Hoiberg would probably like ISU to hire a mid major type coach that has taken his team to three straight NCAA tournaments and was a proven winner as a college coach? Oh yeah, we already did that with McDermott and it was a complete disaster.

I'm not sure on the exact number, but the vast majority of coaches in BCS conference schools come from the mid majors.

**IcSyU** · 04-10-2010, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by deadeyededric

Good point! I like to think it was more Bruce just didn't do his job.

World is ending. I've agreed with Tornado man and deadeyededric within 24 hours of each other.

Originally Posted by hursts

Ok so the people that are against hiring Fred Hoiberg would probably like ISU to hire a mid major type coach that has taken his team to three straight NCAA tournaments and was a proven winner as a college coach? Oh yeah, we already did that with McDermott and it was a complete disaster.

Coaching hires are a gamble, but when it comes to opening day, do you want Tim Lincecum starting for you who has proven he can get it done on a lesser team, or someone who hasn't proven a damn thing?

**deadeyededric** · 04-10-2010, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by SCNCY

I'm not sure on the exact number, but the vast majority of coaches in BCS conference schools come from the mid majors.

Or 10 or so years of being an assistant of some type. Not assistant to the assistant scout of the T-Wolves.

**Final42b** · 04-10-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

World is ending. I've agreed with Tornado man and deadeyededric within 24 hours of each other.

Coaching hires are a gamble, but when it comes to opening day, do you want Tim Lincecum starting for you who has proven he can get it done on a lesser team, or someone who hasn't proven a damn thing?

Thats a terrible analogy.

**gogagig** · 04-10-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by deadeyededric

Or 10 or so years of being an assistant of some type. Not assistant to the assistant scout of the T-Wolves.

I don't even think it would take 10 years. 3 years of success as assistant at a BCS school, or 2 years of success as head coach at a mid major would be enough for me to consider Fred.

But certainly, he needs some experience

**hursts** · 04-10-2010, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by deadeyededric

Or 10 or so years of being an assistant of some type. Not assistant to the assistant scout of the T-Wolves.

Fred is not the assistant to the assitant scout of the T-Wolves. He is the number two man in the entire organization. BIG DIFFERENCE.

**deadeyededric** · 04-10-2010, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by hursts

Fred is not the assistant to the assitant scout of the T-Wolves. He is the number two man in the entire organization. BIG DIFFERENCE.

They could very well be the worst organization in the NBA. Were not talkin about the Lakers here.

**gogagig** · 04-10-2010, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by hursts

Fred is not the assistant to the assitant scout of the T-Wolves. He is the number two man in the entire organization. BIG DIFFERENCE.

He's welcome to be athletic director should Pollard leave. But Head Coach? Get into coaching first, Fred.

**cyatheart** · 04-10-2010, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by hursts

Once again my prediction is that McDermott is FIRED THIS WEEK. I want Hoiberg for the next head coach.

I would like John Wooden to be 50 years younger and be the next head coach, doesn't mean it is going to happen and repeating it 100 times isn't going to make it so. Can't hire a guy with no coaching experience that has never recruited. Who is to say he even wants to coach?