Keep Coach McDermott!

**acgclone** · 04-13-2010, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Wesley

At this point, Mac did better with what he had than McD has done with his.

I might not have articulated it well enough, but I totally agree. Firing MacCarney was a toss-up. I could see both sides of that argument. Firing Wayne was definitely a toss-up as well, and I could see both sides of that one too.

Firing Gmac, should be a foregone conclusion and I would be shocked if Fennelly saw it the same way as the Danny Mac firing.

**ketelmeister** · 04-13-2010, 12:29 PM

What is any different in the G Mac situation now, then one month ago? Other than Ham and an asst. coach, nothing has changed.

**BryceC** · 04-13-2010, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by ketelmeister

What is any different in the G Mac situation now, then one month ago? Other than Ham and an asst. coach, nothing has changed.

And Colvin. And the feeling like this is going to happen every year no matter what. Etc, etc, etc.

**BigBake** · 04-13-2010, 01:04 PM

What's differen to me is that those are two players and two coaches who were expected to be here next yr.

**BigBake** · 04-13-2010, 01:06 PM

Of the three defections lucca doesn't bother me as much at least he went pro. These other two are just going to hop to different schools.

Us as fans aren't getting a fair and deserved answer from coach, ad or player as to why is wrong that you want to leave?

**chuckd4735** · 04-13-2010, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by ketelmeister

What is any different in the G Mac situation now, then one month ago? Other than Ham and an asst. coach, nothing has changed.

There has been two assistants coaches and also Buckley. Rumors are that its not over yet; Colvin is out, and Dendy might not make grades. Dont forget that every time another deification happens, there is a portion of the fan base who joins the "**** it" group, and quits supporting ISU Men's Basketball.

**acgclone** · 04-13-2010, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by ketelmeister

What is any different in the G Mac situation now, then one month ago? Other than Ham and an asst. coach, nothing has changed.

Not that much really. Even with Ham and the two assistants, we were going to finish no better than 11th in the B12, in Gmac's FIFTH YEAR.

Very sad really......

**ketelmeister** · 04-13-2010, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by chuckd4735

There has been two assistants coaches and also Buckley. Rumors are that its not over yet; Colvin is out, and Dendy might not make grades. Dont forget that every time another deification happens, there is a portion of the fan base who joins the "**** it" group, and quits supporting ISU Men's Basketball.

Do you fire a coach based on rumors? Or what might happen based on message boards? Just askin.

**chuckd4735** · 04-13-2010, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by ketelmeister

Do you fire a coach based on rumors? Or what might happen based on message boards? Just askin.

Not at all. IMO, If the Dendy and Colvin rumors prove to be true, it should not be the straw that breaks the camels back. There is more than enough facts to date which should lead to McDermott's termination.

**UNIGuy4Cy** · 04-13-2010, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by BigBake

What's differen to me is that those are two players and two coaches who were expected to be here next yr.

Very true, McDermott could not win with 2, possibly 3 (Colvin, if someone would coach him) NBA players on the court at the same time.

**ozone** · 04-13-2010, 01:33 PM

Do you consider changing your coach when you just had an 11th place finish with what was supposed to be the coach's most talented team yet.

Do you consider changing your coach when most (IMO) of the fan base has no optimism of improvement for the next 1 or 2 years?

Do you consider changing your coach when the most talented players on the team seek transfers out of the program year after year after year?

**SpokaneCY** · 04-13-2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by chuckd4735

There has been two assistants coaches and also Buckley. Rumors are that its not over yet; Colvin is out, and Dendy might not make grades. Dont forget that every time another deification happens, there is a portion of the fan base who joins the "**** it" group, and quits supporting ISU Men's Basketball.

Coaches leave all the time. In fact (guess) ISU has probably had the most stable staff in the B12 over GMacs tenure. And I find ZERO fault with the staff when players leave for playing time. These kids have 1 or 2 shots at it during their college careers and they have to take their best shot whether its at ISU or elsewhere. As for the others - it happens in every program but its magnified since we haven't had any on-court success. If we were deep in the NIT or were out in the first round of the big tourney people would be less up in arms but the fact is we haven't had any success.

I'm not in the fire GMAc camp nor am I in the keep GMac camp, but I do expect to be able to cheer on our team when the basic nucleus returns each year and we see development to the overall goal of being consistently competitive. With 1 exception - Ham - we have that nucleus back next year with the exciting opportunity to hopefully find another player or 2 that could mesh. But GMacs margin for error is razor thin. He needs to make some great assistant hires have some success on the court next year.