Colvin Interview

**VeloClone** · 04-15-2010, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by azn4cy

I believe he said he was promised run and gun and got UNI ball. You don't need to hit 3s or FTs to play run and gun.. but as a PG in a run and gun you do need great court vision, which he showed glimpses of having. I can see his point.

I can't see his point. Early when McD had the depth they were running it more. The attrition they suffered forced him to slow down and shorten the game. I think that this excuse is as much bull **** as the others we have heard.

In the end, it just doesn't matter...

**San Francisco Cy** · 04-15-2010, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by azn4cy

I believe he said he was promised run and gun and got UNI ball. You don't need to hit 3s or FTs to play run and gun.. but as a PG in a run and gun you do need great court vision, which he showed glimpses of having. I can see his point.

I agree. I seem to recall hearing we'd pick up the pace this year, but never really saw this. Well, I did in the early non-conference games. But, as our roster decimated, we went back to the old style of ball. And I can't imagine it's any fun to play that style AND rarely win...

**ISUChippewa** · 04-15-2010, 03:47 PM

For all those who are making comments on Colvin being a "cancer" and "good riddance" and all that;

While he was suspended mid-season and rightfully so from what we heard, McD did say something along the lines that Colvin responded exactly as McD had hoped he would to the suspension and that his attitude had improved.

So, now that Robinson (who recruited Colvin) has left and Colvin has also left in turn, now all of a sudden he is a "bad kid" again and it's perfectly okay that we lost him?

Lots of short memories around here....

**Stewo** · 04-15-2010, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by rholtgraves

Dude, seriously. Colvin had a ton of potential and talent and you know it.

Doesn't matter if you have the wrong attitude. Loved his potential, hated the personality. He didn't want to be a Cyclone, so bye, bye!

**zimman18** · 04-15-2010, 03:52 PM

Common theme in several transfers... style of play, family and parents involved.

I hope JP is asking questions.
- What is being promised to players?
- Why are relationships with families not being kept up after the recruiting process?
- What is it about the style of play that is not appealing to young kids?

**Dryburn** · 04-15-2010, 03:52 PM

I guess I heard it a little differently. He said HIS style of play did not fit McDermott's. I kind of take that to mean that maybe CC's was a little more loose, free-style....whatever, and it did not fit into a more structured system. Seems like he should have known that before he got here, or the coaches should have known that it would be a problem for him.

Does concern me a little that he said he was told it was going to be run-and-gun, and then it changed. If that is true, that is not going to help with future recruits. I wish they would have run a run-and-gun more often. Biggest problem was they could never rebound well enough to do that.

Don't know what else he could have said. Most of the good things were gone....closer to home, going pro, not enough playing time.......no one had used "style of play yet". Dendy and Oliver will probably not even give a reason.

**arganbright2** · 04-15-2010, 03:52 PM

Did Stinson or Blalock make 3's when they were running and gunning up and down the court???

Colvin is a huge, huge, huge loss---he will have a year to develop a shot when he redshirts and will be solid where ever he ends up at...Don't get ****** at the kid---this may be the best decision he ever made...

**DaddyMac** · 04-15-2010, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by ISUChippewa

For all those who are making comments on Colvin being a "cancer" and "good riddance" and all that;

While he was suspended mid-season and rightfully so from what we heard, McD did say something along the lines that Colvin responded exactly as McD had hoped he would to the suspension and that his attitude had improved.

So, now that Robinson (who recruited Colvin) has left and Colvin has also left in turn, now all of a sudden he is a "bad kid" again and it's perfectly okay that we lost him?

Lots of short memories around here....

I think most realize he said that to justify bringing him off suspension when we needed bodies after Lucca left.

I'm not condemning the kid. I know what I heard about his actions before all that (or more accurately, what led up to it). Never had much doubt this was going to be the end result.

So I suppose my take is this. I don't know that he's a "bad kid". But I think he has attitude, and not necessarily a good one. He got suspended for it, and did what he needed to, to get back on the court because it was the only option he had at the time if he wanted to play. Now he as the option to transfer and it's what he's doing. So I'm not sure his attitude as factually changed at all.

I don't think that's unreasonable.

**Dryburn** · 04-15-2010, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by ISUChippewa

For all those who are making comments on Colvin being a "cancer" and "good riddance" and all that;

While he was suspended mid-season and rightfully so from what we heard, McD did say something along the lines that Colvin responded exactly as McD had hoped he would to the suspension and that his attitude had improved.

So, now that Robinson (who recruited Colvin) has left and Colvin has also left in turn, now all of a sudden he is a "bad kid" again and it's perfectly okay that we lost him?

Lots of short memories around here....

Not so much short as selective.

**gocubs2118** · 04-15-2010, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Stewo

Doesn't matter if you have the wrong attitude. Loved his potential, hated the personality. He didn't want to be a Cyclone, so bye, bye!

We're not in a position to have a team of choir boys if they can't play basketball.

**The_Architect** · 04-15-2010, 03:57 PM

Neat program.

**Stewo** · 04-15-2010, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

We're not in a position to have a team of choir boys if they can't play basketball.

Maybe so, but what good is a kid that walks out on his team?

**CTAClone** · 04-15-2010, 03:58 PM

I think everyone is trying to be the next WJ. They saw it work out for one person and they all think it's going to work out for them to. WJ's success has set a bad precedence for transfering out of Iowa State.

It's like the NBA draft when every High School player was leaving for the NBA when only 1 in 20 would make it.

**ISUChippewa** · 04-15-2010, 03:59 PM

I think most realize he said that to justify bringing him off suspension when we needed bodies after Lucca left.

I'm not condemning the kid. I know what I heard about his actions before all that (or more accurately, what led up to it). Never had much doubt this was going to be the end result.

So I suppose my take is this. I don't know that he's a "bad kid". But I think he has attitude, and not necessarily a good one. He got suspended for it, and did what he needed to, to get back on the court because it was the only option he had at the time if he wanted to play. Now he as the option to transfer and it's what he's doing. So I'm not sure his attitude as factually changed at all.

I don't think that's unreasonable.

I can see that.

Bottom line, just another promising young player getting the hell out of town before his time. And I thought LE's rate of attrition was atrocious.

**azn4cy** · 04-15-2010, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

We're not in a position to have a team of choir boys if they can't play basketball.

We don't need players to be choirboys. I could care less if they are complete thugs as long as they don't break the law and keep it together on the court. I seem to recall Jamaal "I shoot off my guns in clubs" Tinsley as being a decent citizen here.