McDermott Guaranteed 2-3 more years?

**alarson** · 04-21-2010, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by LonoClone

If you don't like the cook, do you stand outside the restaurant with a picket sign every day, screaming to anyone who will listen how much you hate the chef, even though you know that he's still going to be cooking there for at least the next year?

Also, this would be more akin to standing outside hilton and doing this. Voicing my displeasure about our basketball program on a message board is like going on one of those online review sites and giving the restaurant votes down.

**LonoClone** · 04-21-2010, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

If its a place i used to absolutely love, and had been devoted to it prior to this new cook coming in and making the food unbearable, you're damn right i'd be saying something to the owner\manager.

and if the manager says that he's sorry, but he's just not going to change cooks right now? What then? Who do you cry to then? At some point, you'd think that a rational, logical person would figure out that it's just not going to go the way that they want and either tough it out at the restaurant for another year and hope things improve, or stop eating out until the hated chef is gone. Either way, some of us still think the restaurant has some good things to offer. It's still our favorite restaurant, and we aren't willing to give up on it yet. So if you don't mind, you are interrupting our meal.

**alarson** · 04-21-2010, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by CRLCy

then, say it to the manager (JP) and would you say it to their face?
why bring it up to people that just have a different opinion. it's just negativity.

The manager is JP. The owners (more like shareholders in this case) in this case could are the fans\donors. The fans and donors (of which many are on this site) will be here longer than any coach or administrative person).

**Wesley** · 04-21-2010, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Well, one thing I'm thinking it could do is to show that:
1) Top players can come to ISU and excel.
2) ISU embraces it's players for a long, long time.
3) A guy can come here and have an NBA career.

I think Grayer would be able to recruit as a former player here. If he can coach at all, he'd be a nice fit. Hiring him would be a big morale booster for me.

Maybe he can show Greg how to rebound with his butt boxout.

**LonoClone** · 04-21-2010, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Also, this would be more akin to standing outside hilton and doing this. Voicing my displeasure about our basketball program on a message board is like going on one of those online review sites and giving the restaurant votes down.

You'd post your negative review every single day? And your review says the same thing over, and over, and over again?

**alarson** · 04-21-2010, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by LonoClone

and if the manager says that he's sorry, but he's just not going to change cooks right now? What then? Who do you cry to then? At some point, you'd think that a rational, logical person would figure out that it's just not going to go the way that they want and either tough it out at the restaurant for another year and hope things improve, or stop eating out until the hated chef is gone. Either way, some of us still think the restaurant has some good things to offer. It's still our favorite restaurant, and we aren't willing to give up on it yet. So if you don't mind, you are interrupting our meal.

I also happen to be a shareholder of said restaurant. I notice that said crappy chef is hurting business. I see cook sucks and manager sucks. I go to other shareholders and see what their thoughts are.

**alarson** · 04-21-2010, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by LonoClone

You'd post your negative review every single day? And your review says the same thing over, and over, and over again?

I do believe this thread is new news. And you're derailing it.

**LonoClone** · 04-21-2010, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

The manager is JP. The owners (more like shareholders in this case) in this case could are the fans\donors. The fans and donors (of which many are on this site) will be here longer than any coach or administrative person).

wait, I thought the fans were the restaurant patrons. Now they're the owners?

**jsb** · 04-21-2010, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

They have been compensated well for their efforts. Both financially (scholarships) and in fan support (how many schools have the level of attendance we've had with as bad as we've been?).

If you're at a restaurant, and you have given them multiple tries over the years, with the hope that things have gotten better. You can tell the cook is trying, but the food still sucks. Do you keep going, and paying for crappy food, just because the cook is trying real hard?

I'd go back if I liked the cook.

Some people treat being an Iowa State fan like a business for them. I treat it as a part of me, I couldn't not support Iowa State. Different view points. I can't understand yours. You can't understand mine.

**alarson** · 04-21-2010, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by LonoClone

wait, I thought the fans were the restaurant patrons. Now they're the owners?

Can one not be both? I own stock in companies i've purchased from.

As a donor, i'm a shareholder (albeit not a huge one, but a shareholder nonetheless), and i also buy the product the company produces.

**LonoClone** · 04-21-2010, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

I do believe this thread is new news. And you're derailing it.

What a cop out. Fine, I'll stop "derailing" this thread.

**CRLCy** · 04-21-2010, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

I also happen to be a shareholder of said restaurant. I notice that said crappy chef is hurting business. I see cook sucks and manager sucks. I go to other shareholders and see what their thoughts are.

Can't we agree that the shareholders are mixed?
Being louder doesn't make it more true, just louder.

I choose to support those that choose ISU, not blindly.
I can see they are attempting something different, if that doesn't work, then the another decision will be made, but until then, hope we get the best players and coaches we can... For ISU's sake.

**marothisu** · 04-21-2010, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by LonoClone

wait, I thought the fans were the restaurant patrons. Now they're the owners?

Well in a shareholder model they are technically owners as well as fans. Like stock, you buy stock because you like something about the company...you use services/products of the company most likely too (making you a fan). Since you are a shareholder though you own part of the company too. Making you both a fan and owner.

**Palmer** · 04-21-2010, 09:18 PM

I will take a Diet Rite and a Cobb salad please.

...and hold the tomatoes.

**Wesley** · 04-21-2010, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by StLouisClone

If ISU has another losing season, there's no way GMac will come back in 2011-2012. Pollard would become the biggest hypocrite on the planet. Can't happen. Too many donors will go after Pollard.

At this point, he will be back if he wins ten. We are stuck in neutral, The incoming people will be better in three years. Then we only owe a million to make a change.

Looks like the long good buy(out) saved Greg a move. He will have several chances for year One.