The future of Colvin

[Tre4ISU]

Uhhh, you have some very low standards for POTD.

You're taking up a lot of posts so there wasn't much competition. Plus, that post was funny and accurate.

[WalkingCY]

Sorry, I blame GMac for all the transfers. He was not a good coach at this level. He was an utter failure of a coach in the B12. I would welcome back CC just because he now would have a chance to play for a better coach in a better system. GMac was weak.

[CloneIce]

Same reason why Orr didn't welcome back Sam Mack with open arms.

Are you freaking kidding me? Didn't Mack rob the Burger King with a gun? Your comparing this to Colvin transferring? WTF?

[Clonefan32]

Please, by all means, find another Johnny Orr reference from me. I mention the guy once, and BOOM!!!!! I'm lumped into some category in you head.

It was called an example. I responded accordingly to a post that claimed he was good enough on the court to be here.

I say that isn't good enough.

It was an example based on an uncomparable situation. Colvin left simply because he disliked our current head coach, was being stiffled in his style of play, and the primary reason he came to Iowa State (D-Rob) had left. No legal trouble, he hasn't behaved like Lucca, and he apparently still loves Ames if he is considering coming back. I just don't see any similarities between the two...

[ISUFan22]

21 other guys "quit" in a span of 4 years. But yes, it's all Colvin and his immature, kid-like behavior. Not only should he be banished forever, but we should use him as our e-whipping boy continuously.

[DaddyMac]

Coming to terms doesn't mean you are going to have a lifelong relationship... If you have a project manager you don't get along with, I would hope you would make it work for the length of the project, then maybe get a new job if working with said manager was going to be a consistent thing...

Should that reflect negatively on you as an employee? or Colvin as a player?

Or it simply mean he did what he needed to do to get on the court and finish out the season. And he only got on the court early because of the Lucca situation - let's not kid ourselves there.

Let's also not forget that during the Big XII tourney he guaranteed he'd be back. That's just a flat out lie. Or do you mean to tell me that in that one, single tourney game - things got SO BAD, that he decided to finally leave. If it as so bad under Gmac, then keep your mouth shut and then transfer - don't make false assurances.

Look - if the new coach comes aboard, CC wants back and the coach ok's it. I'm cool with it. Til that point - I'm not hoping for his return. And back to my original point - I don't think JP will even make it an option.

[CycloneYoda]

Sorry, I blame GMac for all the transfers. He was not a good coach at this level. He was an utter failure of a coach in the B12. I would welcome back CC just because he now would have a chance to play for a better coach in a better system. GMac was weak.

So if you don't get along with the coach because he won't cater to your personal specific childish needs, it is okay to quit.

Great lesson to teach kids. If you have a problem, just quit. If something is hard to do, it must not be worth doing.

Please tell me you are not a parent.

[CycloneYoda]

21 other guys "quit" in a span of 4 years. But yes, it's all Colvin and his immature, kid-like behavior. Not only should he be banished forever, but we should use him as our e-whipping boy continuously.

There were no rumors or possibility of those other 21 guys coming back after making the decision to transfer. They made their choice to never be a Cyclone again.

I'll respect Colvin a tad more if he sticks with his commitment and leaves ISU.

[Clonefan32]

So if you don't get along with the coach because he won't cater to your personal specific childish needs, it is okay to quit.

Great lesson to teach kids. If you have a problem, just quit. If something is hard to do, it must not be worth doing.

Please tell me you are not a parent.

Please. Division 1 college basketball is not what it used to be. Parent's aren't sending their kids off to become men under the guidance of your coach. It's a business. These kids have aspirations of playing professionally, whether domesticly or abroad. Their goal is to get noticed and part of that is playing a style of basketball that showcases their abilities, and part of that is playing under a coach who can teach you in order to get the most out of your ability.

Thank god you are in the minority on this subject. I see no reason not to give an 18 year old kid a second chance...

[azn4cy]

Or it simply mean he did what he needed to do to get on the court and finish out the season. And he only got on the court early because of the Lucca situation - let's not kid ourselves there.

Let's also not forget that during the Big XII tourney he guaranteed he'd be back. That's just a flat out lie. Or do you mean to tell me that in that one, single tourney game - things got SO BAD, that he decided to finally leave. If it as so bad under Gmac, then keep your mouth shut and then transfer - don't make false assurances.

Look - if the new coach comes aboard, CC wants back and the coach ok's it. I'm cool with it. Til that point - I'm not hoping for his return. And back to my original point - I don't think JP will even make it an option.

I'll agree with you on that one. I suppose it's probably a moot point. I just think you are way too hard on him. Maybe he was on the edge, leaning towards staying whne he made that comment, and Hamilton transferring swayed him the other way. When the program was as unstable as it was during that point in time, I can't blame him for changing his mind.

[CycloneYoda]

Please. Division 1 college basketball is not what it used to be. Parent's aren't sending their kids off to become men under the guidance of your coach. It's a business. These kids have aspirations of playing professionally, whether domesticly or abroad. Their goal is to get noticed and part of that is playing a style of basketball that showcases their abilities, and part of that is playing under a coach who can teach you in order to get the most out of your ability.

Thank god you are in the minority on this subject. I see no reason not to give an 18 year old kid a second chance...

Please. 99% of D-1 players never make it to the next level. They get their degree and get a job, like the rest of us.


Colvin can have his 2nd chance......at a different school.

[ISUFan22]

There were no rumors or possibility of those other 21 guys coming back after making the decision to transfer. They made their choice to never be a Cyclone again.

I don't believe there is a real rumor (other than fans hoping) Colvin is considering coming back.

Also, Colvin would be one of the first defections that has taken place with a new coach on the way in.

[Clonefan32]

There were no rumors or possibility of those other 21 guys coming back after making the decision to transfer. They made their choice to never be a Cyclone again.

I'll respect Colvin a tad more if he sticks with his commitment and leaves ISU.

Mostly because those 21 guys are currently playing for other schools.

So, by your logic, someone who quits or transfers and bad-mouths the school has done a better thing than someone who decides he wants to transfer, but is willing to come back and help a team that is already starved for players next year? I'm not sure why completley abandoning Iowa State is considered honorable, while wanting to come back and support the school he originally commited to his so detestable. Maybe you should take the honorable route then and completely abandon Iowa State basketball, because this garbage towards an 18 year old is insane.

[CycloneYoda]

Mostly because those 21 guys are currently playing for other schools.

So, by your logic, someone who quits or transfers and bad-mouths the school has done a better thing than someone who decides he wants to transfer, but is willing to come back and help a team that is already starved for players next year? I'm not sure why completley abandoning Iowa State is considered honorable, while wanting to come back and support the school he originally commited to his so detestable. Maybe you should take the honorable route then and completely abandon Iowa State basketball, because this garbage towards an 18 year old is insane.

See, the huge difference here is that I never requested my transfer from the ISU fanbase, only to ask for it back when a coach came around that I like. See, we have a word for that: Hawkeye.

[Clonefan32]

Please. 99% of D-1 players never make it to the next level. They get their degree and get a job, like the rest of us.


Colvin can have his 2nd chance......at a different school.

So lets say you have been working a job for a while working at Snarky Thread Starter's, Inc. You've worked as a low level snarky thread start for a few years now, and the job really isn't going anywhere. So you tell your boss you are planning to quit and that you will searching for a new job. While in this new meeting, the boss tells you that a position just opened up as Chief Snarky Thread Starter, and you are the most qualified person in the entire company for that job. Because you have already stated your intentions to quit and look for another job, do you honor that or do you go for your dream job?

P.S.-- In this hypothetical, I work for Passive-Aggresive, LLC.