Ham gone?

**Clone5** · 04-29-2010, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Yeah, and who is going to play defense again? Ham deserves credit, last year he had to guard his guy and Brackins' guy.

And the guy guarding Ham had to guard Brackins.

**Cyberclone** · 04-29-2010, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by CY ST8T

Who says it was Ham making the decision? I don't know anything at all, but the fact that he told Dendy he was coming back and then both Colvin and Ham took the time to meet with Hoiberg shows they had some interest. Maybe Hoiberg didn't see it in our best interest to keep either of them. Probably nothing to that, but it is at least a possibility

I am guessing you are more right than you know, who has more loyalty to ISU than Fred?
Nobody I can think of. He may have seen both Colvin and Hamilton as bailing on ISU, and not a good gamble. He may not want to spend most of his time this year trying to motivate guys that had already wanted out of ames.

**jsb** · 04-29-2010, 09:20 PM

Now, this is a familar feeling. Good basketball news, followed by disappointing basketball news. Lovely.

I wish we could have gotten Ham to stay. Not a great way to start the Hoiberg recruiting era. :)

I'll still keep him as our coach though!

**CycloneErik** · 04-29-2010, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by jsb

Now, this is a familar feeling. Good basketball news, followed by disappointing basketball news. Lovely.

I wish we could have gotten Ham to stay. Not a great way to start the Hoiberg recruiting era. :)

I'll still keep him as our coach though!

Not sure that Ham leaving anyway is disappointing, since we weren't counting on him being here.

I'm not upset with the look of next year's team. I think, as Randy Peterson said, this could be a fun team to watch. A fun team around .500 in the first year buys a lot of capital.

And as Deace said this morning, maybe it's not worth it to spend capital on a guy that left once.

**iowast8fan** · 04-29-2010, 09:32 PM

"Thanks to all the cyclones out there for treating me well and i am looking forward to see FH bring the magic back. Goodluck cyclones! "

He didn't say goodbye cyclones. So, I want confirmation.

**ISUAgronomist** · 04-29-2010, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by iowast8fan

"Thanks to all the cyclones out there for treating me well and i am looking forward to see FH bring the magic back. Goodluck cyclones! "

He didn't say goodbye cyclones. So, I want confirmation.

Same here.

**CyCloned** · 04-29-2010, 09:35 PM

I think I will wait until he officially says he is not coming back. If he leaves, than good luck to him at LSU. I appreicate him at least giving Fred a chance to talk to him.

**mkadl** · 04-29-2010, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Yeah, and who is going to play defense again? Ham deserves credit, last year he had to guard his guy and Brackins' guy.

Originally Posted by Clone5

And the guy guarding Ham had to guard Brackins.

And we lost

with that duo

**crash_zone** · 04-29-2010, 09:38 PM

I was more disappointed when Ham said he was going to leave than any of the others this year. Ham just seems like the type of player you want on a team - enjoyed rooting for him. Wish he'd been a little more forward with why he was leaving the first time, but I can't hold that against him (not wanting the air dirty laundry, etc.). Good luck Ham, hope you stay at ISU (I'd like to continue cheering for you).

**stateofmind** · 04-29-2010, 09:48 PM

Good lord, you guys are creepy. No official word and you guys go through the 5 emotional stages, all in one thread.

**iowast8fan** · 04-29-2010, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by stateofmind

Good lord, you guys are creepy. No official word and you guys go through the 5 emotional stages, all in one thread.

Yep! I claimed denial.

**Cyclonepride** · 04-29-2010, 10:23 PM

I'm not convinced that this is a statement of intent. It sounds like it could be, but in a very vague sort of way.

**Thompsonclone21** · 04-29-2010, 10:26 PM

According to cyclonesportsreport it is official.
But oh well i like the posts we have now and i cant wait for the season to start.

**Clonefan32** · 04-29-2010, 10:31 PM

I'm telling you this is a net gain:

A big lumbering junior center who was brought in to fit with the previous regime's style of play

or

A freshman being brought in by the new staff to play the style of basketball the new regime is going to play.

I will take the 2nd option...

**Thompsonclone21** · 04-29-2010, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

I'm telling you this is a net gain:

A big lumbering junior center who was brought in to fit with the previous regime's style of play

or

A freshman being brought in by the new staff to play the style of basketball the new regime is going to play.

I will take the 2nd option...

I wish the best of luck to Justin but i'm personally happy he is deciding not to come back just because of what you said. I am excited about the new guys.