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**cyclonenum1** · 06-03-2010, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by enisthemenace

TJ is VERY well connected. Not going to say much more than that. This is a big part of what makes him an extremely solid to great recruiter.

Frankly, all decent coaches are VERY well connected...you have to be to be any good in the business...connected to HS and AAU coaches, connected with other coaches, connected with scouts, etc. Just about everybody can say their coach or coaches are well connected. At the end of the day, what matters are results...results as defined by wins.

**brokenloginagain** · 06-03-2010, 09:23 AM

in four years of losing basketball, TJ may end up with three of his recruits drafted in the NBA (Taylor, Brackins, Gilstrap). that is impressive.

**cyclonenum1** · 06-03-2010, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by brokenloginagain

in four years of losing basketball, TJ may end up with three of his recruits drafted in the NBA (Taylor, Brackins, Gilstrap). that is impressive.

OK...but he is supposed to be recruiting for ISU. I'm sorry but one year guys like Taylor and Gilstrap do not impress me in terms of his recruiting abilities.

Clearly, Brackins was a great get...but hadn't he coached Brackins previously or something...I really don't know...but I do know that most on this site chastize other schools when they hire a coach as an assistant and one of his players follows him.

**swarthmoreCY** · 06-03-2010, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I think that his perception of TJ is affected by TJ's association with GMac, and desiring to cut all ties with that era. Just my guess.

Which, if true, would be foolish.

**Cydkar** · 06-03-2010, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

OK...but he is supposed to be recruiting for ISU. I'm sorry but one year guys like Taylor and Gilstrap do not impress me in terms of his recruiting abilities.

Clearly, Brackins was a great get...but hadn't he coached Brackins previously or something...I really don't know...but I do know that most on this site chastize other schools when they hire a coach as an assistant and one of his players follows him.

They chastize out of jealousy. You have to play the game.

**CycloneErik** · 06-03-2010, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonenum1

Without question that is a concern. Frankly, holding on to anything from the GM era at ISU is troubling to me.

And that's not completely unreasonable. I'm thinking that Hoiberg should make TJs recruiting life a lot easier. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the NBA angle will help a lot more with Hoiberg here.

**cyclonenum1** · 06-03-2010, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Cydkar

They chastize out of jealousy. You have to play the game.

Oh, I understand that. However, I do think we have a goodly number of fans that are 'letter of the law' types that don't want ISU to even play in the 'gray areas'.

In my opinion, I do not want a coach that is an outright cheater...but I do want a coach that is going to stretch the rules as much as possible and always be looking for loopholes. The guys that are great recruiters are the ones that can find advantages that others overlook...for example, Saban using video conferencing equipment to get past limits on visiting high schools before they closed that loophole.

This is why I don't criticise K-State or KU for how they hire their assistants. This is why I have no problem with us potentially having a handshake deal with Lutz but nothing official so he can make contacts because he is not officially affiliated and hence governed by NCAA rules.