Post Players

**IcSyU** · 06-17-2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Clones21

Brackins, I'm pretty sure was 6'10.

Stand next to Craig, and tell me he's 6'10". What a roster says is normally bull ****. Beasley I believe was measured at 6'7" and change before the NBA draft.

Originally Posted by rdmoon12

Well Yahoo has Beasley at 6.10 and the Miami Heat roster have him at 6.10...
Brackins is 6.10 according to draftexpress.com, cyclones.com, nba.com, ballersnetwork.com

And I didn't mention Cole Aldrich or Pittman because we are talking about big men that can run the floor.... and they can't

You don't need big men who can run the floor to be successful!

Originally Posted by rdmoon12

Iowa State needs a good big man... I mean name one great team that didn't have a great post player... I mean look at the Finals right now ( oh man I just looked up and Brian Scalabrine is in hahahahaha) but anyway look at the finals right now... Lakers have Gasol... Boston has KG

Great doesn't mean you run the floor well. Shaq was a pretty damn good big man, and that fat *** can't run the floor to save his ***. Dexter Pittman was a pretty damn good big man, but he can't run the floor to save his ***. LaRon Dendy could run the floor, and he was not a good Big 12 big man. Marcus Fizer was a HELL of a big man, and he wasn't even big.

**rdmoon12** · 06-17-2010, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by nickcyv

Agreed, I'd love to have KG or Gasol but what college did those two attend? Elite big men are rare and we squandered the past two years of Brackins... But we will leave that issue be.

I am not saying we need a KG and a Gasol I am saying we need a post player we can rely on... another Jared Homan

**rdmoon12** · 06-17-2010, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

Stand next to Craig, and tell me he's 6'10". What a roster says is normally bull ****. Beasley I believe was measured at 6'7" and change before the NBA draft.

You don't need big men who can run the floor to be successful!

Great doesn't mean you run the floor well. Shaq was a pretty damn good big man, and that fat *** can't run the floor to save his ***. Dexter Pittman was a pretty damn good big man, but he can't run the floor to save his ***. LaRon Dendy could run the floor, and he was not a good Big 12 big man. Marcus Fizer was a HELL of a big man, and he wasn't even big.

dude if you read my first thing it just says Iowa State needs a big man... and then someone said it wouldn't fit with our new style we need someone who can run.. so I added saying fine a big man that can run... Me personally I would love a big man like Shaq, or Cole Aldrich, or another Jared Homan

**Tre4ISU** · 06-17-2010, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by rdmoon12

Iowa State needs a good big man... I mean name one great team that didn't have a great post player... I mean look at the Finals right now ( oh man I just looked up and Brian Scalabrine is in hahahahaha) but anyway look at the finals right now... Lakers have Gasol... Boston has KG

We aren't in the NBA. Totally different dynamic where it comes down to things like height because of the elite talent.

You don't need elite post up guys in college. You need guys that work hard and will run the floor in this system. IMO, height alone is highly overrated. Look at a guy like Luke Harangody. It's all about your skill and determination, not just height.

**rdmoon12** · 06-17-2010, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

We aren't in the NBA. Totally different dynamic where it comes down to things like height because of the elite talent.

You don't need elite post up guys in college. You need guys that work hard and will run the floor in this system. IMO, height alone is highly overrated. Look at a guy like Luke Harangody. It's all about your skill and determination, not just height.

Yes I agree with that... But Luke was a true post player... Iowa State doesn't have a true post player... So what am I trying to say is "Iowa State needs to recruit a true post player with experience...

**IcSyU** · 06-17-2010, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by rdmoon12

dude if you read my first thing it just says Iowa State needs a big man... and then someone said it wouldn't fit with our new style we need someone who can run.. so I added saying fine a big man that can run... Me personally I would love a big man like Shaq, or Cole Aldrich, or another Jared Homan

We don't need somebody who can run. You're completely missing that point. If you have good guards, they'll do the running. Cole Aldrich can't run the floor to save his ***, but he was PERFECT for Kansas because he played damn good defense, and he swat a ******** of shots. He wasn't going to light up the scoreboard, but he was going to get his buckets and put backs.

**rdmoon12** · 06-17-2010, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by IcSyU

We don't need somebody who can run. You're completely missing that point. If you have good guards, they'll do the running. Cole Aldrich can't run the floor to save his ***, but he was PERFECT for Kansas because he played damn good defense, and he swat a ******** of shots. He wasn't going to light up the scoreboard, but he was going to get his buckets and put backs.

Again Like I said "I never said we need a big man who can run"... Right now name the Iowa State starting 5 who do you have in the post?? and who do you have replacing them if one of the post players gets in foul trouble

**Cydkar** · 06-17-2010, 09:30 PM

Worst.thread.ever.

**IcSyU** · 06-17-2010, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by rdmoon12

Again Like I said "I never said we need a big man who can run"... Right now name the Iowa State starting 5 who do you have in the post?? and who do you have replacing them if one of the post players gets in foul trouble

1. DG
2. Phillips
3. Christopherson/Anderson
4. Ejim
5. Depends on who the other team plays: Aldrich type (just big, not ridiculously athletic) -> JVB Pittman type (big and athletic)-> Godfrey

Rotate your big men and figure out with JVB, Godfrey, McKnight, and Railey where your matchups are. JVB will get abused defensively by a big guy, but he's going to be open all night offensively.

You can overcome size by
a) playing smart
b) solid defense by your guards
c) getting position

**rdmoon12** · 06-17-2010, 09:35 PM

I guess Iowa State doesn't need any post help at all I mean our guards have been dominate the past 4 seasons. Actually I can't even name a good guard besides Mike Taylor

**enisthemenace** · 06-17-2010, 09:47 PM

Who was the last kid at, let's say, Michigan State who was a 6'10" world beater?

I could be wrong, but I'm sure that's going to be a tough find. They get it done with quick *** guards and some pipe-hitting 6'7", 6'8", 6'9" guys who play/rebound above the rim.

If I had to choose, I'd take a 6'8" nasty who can run the floor over a 6'10" "true post" all day long.

**Clones85'** · 06-17-2010, 09:50 PM

Best Power Forward in the Big 12 last year was 6'6

Damion James

**eastman** · 06-17-2010, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cydkar

Worst.thread.ever.

word ...

**ktownmafia** · 06-18-2010, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by rdmoon12

I guess Iowa State doesn't need any post help at all I mean our guards have been dominate the past 4 seasons. Actually I can't even name a good guard besides Mike Taylor

wes eikmeier...