Always thought bars were safer than house parties. As a safety issue much better to have them in a more controlled (its relative obviously) environment at a bar than at a house party where there can be almost zero control. The worst situations with alcohol (the ones where someone was chugging everclear and whatnot) always seem to come out of house parties.
I just like it so Iowa City suffers. :jimlad:
Good IC sucks anyways along with the Suckeyes
I dont think its a matter of 'feeling unsafe'... its that stuff can tend to get more out of control at house parties than bars..
I have heard the owner of Vitos and Summit will close those bars down. Too bad, cause those were some fun places. It is strange that with the ordinance in place bars can no longer sustain profit. Obviously proves the tremendous amount of money generated by selling alcohol to minors.
I am torn on the ordinance, I didn't vote either way because it does not personally affect me. Of course there will always be ways around this; dance clubs will pop up and narcotics may become more of a problem.
I actually feel like the only people who had a right to vote against this is the student body and law enforcement. Probably just a lot of fun haters. If you are over thirty and live downtown that is your own fault. During my time at ISU I fondly remember random trips to Iowa City bars. It is too bad they couldn't compromise with higher regulation.
You are absolutely correct about the closing of bars proving that a large part of their profits came from selling to minors. I mean, theoretically, they weren't selling to these kids anyway, because it's illegal. So, are they claiming the drop in profits comes from lost revenue from cover charges? What a joke. Those business owners know good and well, they were selling to minors. They were counting on it. Any 19-20 year old can tell you how easy it was to get served at those places. It required no effort at all.
Wow, the students are melting down over this. All of my friends that go to Iowa have a very negative facebook status right now. Check out this facebook group that was made. Login | Facebook
That said, I'll get a chuckle out of the douchy bars closing. The good bars in Iowa City are the ones that are 21+
I am torn on this issue as well. I loved going down to Iowa City when I was underage, but now anymore those places that allowed underagers (Scummit and Fieldhouse) are just a glorified version of Sips or Element and to me are just another bar. I wish kids could have a good time like my friends and I did when under 21, but there is a bright side.
Iowa loses a recruiting tool. You can't tell me big time athletes didn't choose between Iowa and say a different Big Ten school because of the nightlife. Also, it will be nice to see the U's enrollment drop, considerably from the Chicago/northern Illinois area.
In a way, it's good for Iowa State.
Iowa City has (had?) a bunch of bars you could get into underage. If you're an athlete, it doesn't really matter, as you'll get in underage at any school.
I've been downtown a few times since the under 21 ordinance and the ped-mall is dead compared to what it used to be. It's kind of funny to realize how many 18 year olds were running around the place. This is going to drive alot of bars out of business-- just last week we stopped by Vito's on a Thursday at about 10:00 and there were literally 11 people in there.