Valley High School Recruiting????

**cybsball20** · 11-30-2011, 10:37 AM

Just because a kid goes to Catholic school for four years doesn't mean that he wasn't recruited, they just got to them early. You think High School coaches aren't aware of who the top 7th and 8th graders are? Or other players and parents? Most of the rectuiting is done by the kids and parents, often at the request of the coach... There were multiple area schools trying to get my brother to transfer and my ex-wife experienced the same thing in the Cedar Rapids area.

**Cycsk** · 11-30-2011, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by AlleyAddict

Both schools recruit, get over it. Just like that small school that was won 80+ baseball games in a row. They have kids that transfer in all the time. It's just a part of high school football now.

Exhibit A: Ballard girl's basketball players from Australia.

**weR138** · 11-30-2011, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Just because a kid goes to Catholic school for four years doesn't mean that he wasn't recruited, they just got to them early. You think High School coaches aren't aware of who the top 7th and 8th graders are? Or other players and parents? Most of the rectuiting is done by the kids and parents, often at the request of the coach... There were multiple area schools trying to get my brother to transfer and my ex-wife experienced the same thing in the Cedar Rapids area.

Catholic schools recruit 100% of their students 100% of the time. Again, you can't name a D1 recruit from a Catholic school who isn't Catholic. Are you intimating that Catholic schools are paying tuition for athletes?

**Clonefan32** · 11-30-2011, 10:43 AM

What a great thing to teach high school aged kids-- If things aren't going well in your current school just up and leave your coaches and teammates. That should serve the kid well in the real world.

And we wonder why so many college kids transfer anymore...

**cybsball20** · 11-30-2011, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by weR138

Catholic schools recruit 100% of their students 100% of the time. Again, you can't name a D1 recruit from a Catholic school who isn't Catholic. Are you intimating that Catholic schools are paying tuition for athletes?

Because I could give a damn what religion they are...

**wartknight** · 11-30-2011, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Just because a kid goes to Catholic school for four years doesn't mean that he wasn't recruited, they just got to them early. You think High School coaches aren't aware of who the top 7th and 8th graders are? Or other players and parents? Most of the rectuiting is done by the kids and parents, often at the request of the coach... There were multiple area schools trying to get my brother to transfer and my ex-wife experienced the same thing in the Cedar Rapids area.

How often does being the top 7th or 8th Grader translate to being a D1 athlete?
I've could type up a countless list of letdowns there.
Like I said before, the real battle is turning the Catholic jr High kids into Catholic HS kids.
Public Schools in DSM do the same thing.
Oh, and all the guys I typed up grew up going to Catholic Jr Highs.

**wartknight** · 11-30-2011, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Clonefan32

What a great thing to teach high school aged kids-- If things aren't going well in your current school just up and leave your coaches and teammates. That should serve the kid well in the real world.

And we wonder why so many college kids transfer anymore...

Because college kids are the only ones who head for greener pastures.
See: Coaches, employees, divorce rate, etc

**weR138** · 11-30-2011, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Because I could give a damn what religion they are...

Clearly you do. You seem to state that Catholic schools are recruiting athletes. I'm stating that the vast majority of D1 recruits from Catholic schools are indeed Catholics so they have a pretty good reason to be at a Catholic school.

So...are Catholic schools paying athletes? Because by their nature as private schools, Catholic schools must recruit ALL of their students.

**FDWxMan** · 11-30-2011, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by weR138

Name a D1 recruit in the last five years from a Catholic school in Iowa that wasn't Catholic.

One of the Ft. Dodge St. Edmond basketball state title teams when I was in high school had several non-catholic/public school transfers as key players.

They certainly have great, non-catholic players. Regardless of how they got them, legit or not, you're foolish to think they aren't there.

**cyfanatic** · 11-30-2011, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Because I could give a damn what religion they are...

Yep...they are not understanding that point...how would be know about someone's faith unless they advertised it. I do know many Xavier students in Cedar Rapids that are not Catholic. And a few of them are the better athletes there...and were contacted specifically by the school's coaches.

**IHavNoCyCash** · 11-30-2011, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by cyclonestate

This is why I admire Ankeny for their decision to go with two smaller high schools instead of one huge high school. Unlike West Des Moines, our community chose to do what is best for the kids instead of worrying about all the state titles our football and basketball teams will miss out on.

if you are talking about splitting to Ankeny an Ankeny Christian that's a very weak argument consiering ACA enrollment is around 50 and Ankeny is around 1000...hopefully I'm forgetting somebody else that's a horrible argument

**PabloDiablo** · 11-30-2011, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by wartknight

As for Valley- If you are a talented player with potential, why wouldn't you want to play for the school with the largest exposure in the state. The list of D1 athletes they've had over the last several years goes on and on. Besides our own Patrick Neal, I can't think of any of those guys that didn't go to Valley all 4 years. Not saying there isn't one, I just can't think of any.

Bingo, happens in Omaha A LOT. Open enrollment to Millard school district because of the perceived quality of education and athletics. Each Millard high school (West, South, North) currently are over 2000 students same as Valley and are regularly dominant in sports, the 2010 Class A football title was between South and West which are about 2 miles from each other.

My wife and I recently moved to Elkhorn in NE partially because of the school districts overall strength compared to Omaha public schools. They also have traditionally had excellent sports teams in class B in NE (analagous to 3A in IA), so I guess they sure did a hell of a job recruiting us to the area.

I guess I'm in the who the hell cares crowd.

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Just because a kid goes to Catholic school for four years doesn't mean that he wasn't recruited, they just got to them early. You think High School coaches aren't aware of who the top 7th and 8th graders are? Or other players and parents? Most of the rectuiting is done by the kids and parents, often at the request of the coach... There were multiple area schools trying to get my brother to transfer and my ex-wife experienced the same thing in the Cedar Rapids area.

I may be off base here, but isn't it totally legal for a private school to invite whoever the hell they want to go there for whatever they deem an appropriate tuition rate? No taxpayer/gov't involvement = Invite who they want.

**wartknight** · 11-30-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by IHavNoCyCash

if you are talking about splitting to Ankeny an Ankeny Christian that's a very weak argument consiering ACA enrollment is around 50 and Ankeny is around 1000...hopefully I'm forgetting somebody else that's a horrible argument

Read the rest of the thread. in 2013, Ankeny High is splitting to Ankeny High and Ankeny Centennial. ACA has no bearing on this

**IHavNoCyCash** · 11-30-2011, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by weR138

I heart this thread.

Catholic kids go to Catholics schools...THEY RECRUIT!!!

Kids open enroll to Valley...no big deal.

has so much truth it's not funny....I've even have seen recruiting by rival schools on facebook where the coach asks a recruit if he wants to come play for playing time and it's a sincere conversation...next thing you see him opposite the court from you.

Also witnessed a case where a guy played basketball and after it's over transferred to Urbandale to finish academics...pretty fishy

If you don't think they recruit you must be living in a cave...it happens from 1A to 4A and it's killing high school sports here...especially for kids from small towns that don't have the benefit of having a Des Moines or Council Bluffs right by it.