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    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    how are students handled in this ?? is true population for 9 months permanents plus students so 90k?
    Students are counted simply as part of the population. It's an overall total to hit the 59k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    Students are counted simply as part of the population. It's an overall total to hit the 59k.
    I think they're 3/5ths of a person, or maybe I'm thinking of something else.

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    Re: Ames Population?

    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    how are students handled in this ?? is true population for 9 months permanents plus students so 90k?
    With the ISU enrollment over 30,000 now, I would estimate that the population is closer to 70,000 during the school year. Students are supposed to put Ames as their residence for the census but I would imagine not everyone does.

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    Re: Ames Population?

    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    how are students handled in this ?? is true population for 9 months permanents plus students so 90k?
    Mostly, that number includes students. The population is supposed to be those who were living in the community on April 1 of each census year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    I think they're 3/5ths of a person, or maybe I'm thinking of something else.
    That's just the short students. The basketball players offset some of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3TrueFans View Post
    I think they're 3/5ths of a person, or maybe I'm thinking of something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebecacy View Post
    how are students handled in this ?? is true population for 9 months permanents plus students so 90k?
    The students are figured into the population. The way the city sees it, the students use the water and contribute to the sewer and so on so they have every right to count them. That is straight from one of the council members mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post
    That median income does seem high. Especially with students
    Paradoxically, including students probably increases the median household income. The denominator in the calculation is "households" regardless of the number of income-earners per household; since students are more likely to live in housing arrangements that have multiple income-earners, there's likely more income per household among students relative to the general population, even though individual students' incomes are low.

    Per example, a party house on Welch Avenue contains six dudes that each earn about $15,000 per year from part-time jobs; their household income is $90,000/year, which is probably larger than the per-household income of an early-career couple, a well-off single parent, or a fixed-income retired couple.

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    Re: Ames Population?

    A lot of times companies/businesses/economic development teams will state the population as in how many people a certain business will be able to pull in. The 129,000 number may come from Ames, Boone, Nevada and then the perceived amount of residents from Marshalltown, FT. Dodge, Webster City willing to travel to use Kohls & TJ Maxx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    Paradoxically, including students probably increases the median household income. The denominator in the calculation is "households" regardless of the number of income-earners per household; since students are more likely to live in housing arrangements that have multiple income-earners, there's likely more income per household among students relative to the general population, even though individual students' incomes are low.

    Per example, a party house on Welch Avenue contains six dudes that each earn about $15,000 per year from part-time jobs; their household income is $90,000/year, which is probably larger than the per-household income of an early-career couple, a well-off single parent, or a fixed-income retired couple.
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    Re: Ames Population?

    Quote Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone View Post
    Paradoxically, including students probably increases the median household income. The denominator in the calculation is "households" regardless of the number of income-earners per household; since students are more likely to live in housing arrangements that have multiple income-earners, there's likely more income per household among students relative to the general population, even though individual students' incomes are low.

    Per example, a party house on Welch Avenue contains six dudes that each earn about $15,000 per year from part-time jobs; their household income is $90,000/year, which is probably larger than the per-household income of an early-career couple, a well-off single parent, or a fixed-income retired couple.
    I doubt many students make over $10k in their part time jobs, but I get your point.

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    Re: Ames Population?

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    I doubt many students make over $10k in their part time jobs, but I get your point.
    $10k isn't that hard to find in a job. That's basically $9-10/hr for 1040 hours (20 per week).

    Even less than $9-10 per hour will still get them over $10k easily if they work in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    I doubt many students make over $10k in their part time jobs, but I get your point.
    I'd be a disgrace to my econ profs if I didn't use examples that were completely out-of-touch with reality

    How much could a banana cost anyways; 10 dollars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneErik View Post
    $10k isn't that hard to find in a job. That's basically $9-10/hr for 1040 hours (20 per week).

    Even less than $9-10 per hour will still get them over $10k easily if they work in the summer.
    Maybe times have changed in the past 6 years, but its pretty hard to find a more traditional part time job that pays much over $9 an hour. Even more so, its pretty hard top find many college students in todays age that will work much over 20 hours a week during the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckd4735 View Post
    Even more so, its pretty hard top find many college students in todays age that will work much over 20 hours a week during the summer.
    Huh? The majority of my friends in college do. I have an intern sitting six feet away from me and she works full time hours.

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