Stepson whipped for failing to catch a ball

[Angie]

Then what form of punishment doesn't do the exact same thing? How do you do it Angie? Have them sit in the corner? Ok, so they are going to do the right thing next because now they know what's right and wrong? No, they are doing because they don't want to have to sit in the corner. I don't believe in beating kids but I don't have a problem with spanking either when done within reason and when the kid knows why what is happening is happening. One of my pet peeves is people thinking there is only one way to raise children and that way is the way they do it. Often times, those kids are little ********* too. Maybe I won't ever have kids but I will not have ******** kids.

I'm pretty sure I wrote this:

"Everyone parents differently, this is just how we do it"

in what you quoted.

I don't care how other people parent. You want to beat the hell out of your child, that's your choice and your household. Not my business, but I don't have to agree with it or think it's right in my household.

Almost every child psychologist would actually promote logical and natural consequences. A child leaves their bike outside? The natural consequence would be to leave it out there in the rain and let it rust, the logical consequence is to put away the bike for a determined amount of time. These are consequences more like what you receive in the real world.

Kids are pretty ******* smart. My daughter isn't even 2, and she knows when she's doing something wrong. Not because we beat her, or even tap her hand - but because we communicate with her, teach her how to behave properly, and use appropriate consequences. My daughter is far from ill-behaved, she's a very behaved toddler - and it's been accomplished without hitting her even once. And that is even knowing that we screw up as parents constantly.

[Cyballz]

I will take the generations that were the result of physical punishment over the generations that are the result of no physical punishment and in some cases no punishment at all any day. And that is regardless of what any supposed "credible" study says.

Which generations belong in the "punishment" category and which ones belong in the "laissez-faire" category (that means no punishment)? Since the beginning of time there have been those who were punished physically and those that weren't. Where's this line of generations between physical punishment and hands off parenting? Enlighten me.

As long as we're just going to use limited personal experiences brought to mind by our personal view of the topic, most parents that I've seen that regularly spank/hit their kids are ******* that tend to encourage their kids to misbehave. So it's a chicken or egg thing a lot of times.

[Angie]

Spanking is not beating. Spank to teach a lesson, not out of violence and you are fine IMO.

What lesson is it teaching? "If you do something wrong, someone somewhere is going to hit you"? That's not applicable to the real world for the vast majority of people.

[chuckd4735]

What lesson is it teaching? "If you do something wrong, someone somewhere is going to hit you"? That's not applicable to the real world for the vast majority of people.

No...it teaches you that if you do something wrong, you're going to get spanked, and getting spanked ******* hurts. So in an effort to save myself from pain, I best not do wrong.

[Cyballz]

No...it teaches you that if you do something wrong, you're going to get spanked, and getting spanked ******* hurts. So in an effort to save myself from pain, I best not do wrong.

It teaches kids to make sure their parents don't see them doing the things that would get them spanked. It also teaches them that if someone is doing something bad to them that they should "make them hurt" so they learn the lesson that their parents have so wisely taught them.

[Rabbuk]

Most kids that get spanked are little ******** when their parents aren't around. At least that's the case with most of my 30 younger cousins.

[Angie]

No...it teaches you that if you do something wrong, you're going to get spanked, and getting spanked ******* hurts. So in an effort to save myself from pain, I best not do wrong.

But, again, from where does their motivation to do right then come when they're older, or Mom and Dad aren't around? Fear as a motivator only works as long as the feared item is ever-present.

[CYphyllis]

doesnt matter, and your dad was wrong. We know better in todays world. My parents used to let me ride in the car without a car seat, or drive on their lap, or ride in the back of pick ups... you used to be able to drink and smoke at work..

because it used to happen doesnt make it right. Your dad was wrong, and the guy in this video has serious issues... he is beating the crap out of his kid with a whip! insane.

plus its not effective to the maturity and development of child to hit them. it was baseball for the love.

Even if the kid said F off, he learned that somewhere and my guess is from the negative energy in the home. If he didnt and said it anyway, so what. As a parent and an adult you are supposed to have the patience and maturity to handle it in a way that is not violent.

Back when the world wasn't full of *******. I wish I could have lived in those days.

Now all I see are kids running around screaming in public places while their parents explain to me that the kids are just expressing themselves.

The next "participation award" I see will cause violent nausea.

[VeloClone]

Back when the world wasn't full of *******. I wish I could have lived in those days.

Now all I see are kids running around screaming in public places while their parents explain to me that the kids are just expressing themselves.

The next "participation award" I see will cause violent nausea.

Just seeing if it really works:

[Naughtius]

Here's another angle. STEP dad.

I know there are fantastic stepparents out there. Heck, I know some that are better than the originals. This one evidently isn't (or God help the father).

Where's the mom in all this? That much anger is hard to conceal. If the neighbors know, she must.

My stepdad never laid a finger on me. If he had, no telling who would have gotten him back first: mom or me.

[TXCyclones]

Most kids that get spanked are little ******** when their parents aren't around. At least that's the case with most of my 30 younger cousins.

I understand your point, but in reality most kids who get spanked are not little *********. Sadly, most who get spanked are simply casualties of parents who spank simply because they were spanked as a child themselves. Typically it is the spanking that makes the child a little ******** when they're young. Of course, there are exceptions (outliers) and some kids will act out regardless of the parenting technique. Spanking sucks - period.

[Naughtius]

I understand your point, but in reality most kids who get spanked are not little *********. Sadly, most who get spanked are simply casualties of parents who spank simply because they were spanked as a child themselves. Typically it is the spanking that makes the child a little ******** when they're young. Of course, there are exceptions (outliers) and some kids will act out regardless of the parenting technique. Spanking sucks - period.

Citation?

[CYphyllis]

Just seeing if it really works:

I used to referee youth soccer games for some quick and easy cash. Mid to early last decade they had us stop taking score completely from ages 8th grade and down. Didn't want to take the chance of hurting a kids psyche by declaring a winner or a loser for any game. Only rewards given out for an entire season? Sportsmanship patches.

******* sportsmanship patches.

[chuckd4735]

But, again, from where does their motivation to do right then come when they're older, or Mom and Dad aren't around? Fear as a motivator only works as long as the feared item is ever-present.

So based off that argument, what is the point of grounding your children? What is the point of taking their bike away as you mentioned previously? Do you plan on going over to your 35 year old child's house when he leaves a tool outside in the rain on accident and take away all their tools?

There comes a point when you no longer have to instill fear into your children because they fully understand right from wrong. It all about getting to that point.

[Angie]

So based off that argument, what is the point of grounding your children? What is the point of taking their bike away as you mentioned previously? Do you plan on going over to your 35 year old child's house when he leaves a tool outside in the rain on accident and take away all their tools?

There comes a point when you no longer have to instill fear into your children because they fully understand right from wrong. It all about getting to that point.

No, the rain will take care of ruining the 35-year-old's tools all on its own. So mimicking that type of situation, preparing the child for what he/she will meet in the real world sets them up for less of a rebellion. Also, you don't have a 35-year-old leaving **** out in the rain, because they understood from a very young age WHY not to do it.

As I said before, do whatever you want in your own house, it's not my business, nor do I care. Most studies and child psychologists don't think it's at all effective to spank, and causes resentment/rebellion in children, but that's a decision every set of parents makes for themselves.