They need to make the driver of the vechicle responsible with the bill. At my job at a store if I sell alcohol to someone not of age. I am slapped with a fine and a short leave of absence. It makes sense since it's my own mistake and not the company that I work for. The same should be implemented for the driver of the vehicle.
but.....that would be different from how they issue civil violations to "civilians". So it's a no-go on grounds of fairness.
Hopefully they are gone by this time next year...there are several cities that have decided to hold off until the legislature makes up their mind. I don't mind the red light cameras...but those speed cameras need to go away.
So the city is actually stealing from Gatso! There's a scandal for you!
This should not be an issue as to who should pay and if you violate the law you pay no matter who you are or work for. At my company you have to sign out a car so it would be easy to just check the date and who had signed out the car and they pay. I would bet t6he city has the same system in place and if not just make the department head pay( out of his pocket not from dept. funds), they will find out who was driving real quick.
You're also not completly educated on the turn signal law, so before you go calling others out, maybe you should educate yourself... Code 2009 Index
321.314 WHEN SIGNAL REQUIRED.
No person shall turn a vehicle from a direct course upon a highway
unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety and
then only after giving a clearly audible signal by sounding the horn
if any pedestrian may be affected by such movement or after giving an
appropriate signal in the manner hereinafter provided in the event
any other vehicle may be affected by such movement.
321.315 SIGNAL CONTINUOUS.
A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given
continuously during not less than the last one hundred feet traveled
by the vehicle before turning when the speed limit is forty-five
miles per hour or less and a continuous signal during not less than
the last three hundred feet when the speed limit is in excess of
forty-five miles per hour.
321.317 SIGNALS BY HAND AND ARM OR SIGNAL DEVICE.
1. The signals required under the provisions of this chapter may
be given either by means of the hand and arm as provided in section
321.318, or by a mechanical or electrical directional signal device
or light conforming to the provisions of this chapter.
2. Directional signal devices shall be designed with a white,
yellow or amber lamp or lamps to be displayed on the front of
vehicles and with a lamp or lamps of red, yellow or amber to be
displayed on the rear of vehicles. Such devices shall be capable of
clearly indicating any intention to turn either to the right or to
the left and shall be visible and understandable during both daylight
and darkness from a distance of at least one hundred feet from the
front and rear of a vehicle equipped therewith.
3. It is unlawful for any person to sell or offer for sale or
operate on the highways of the state any vehicle subject to
registration under the provisions of this chapter which has never
been registered in this or any other state prior to January 1, 1954,
unless the vehicle is equipped with a directional signal device of a
type in compliance with the provisions of subsection 2. Motorcycles,
motorized bicycles, and semitrailers and trailers less than forty
inches in width are exempt from the provisions of this section.
4. When a vehicle is equipped with a directional signal device,
such device shall at all times be maintained in good working
condition. No directional signal device shall project a glaring or
dazzling light. All directional signal devices shall be
self-illuminated when in use while other lamps on the vehicle are
5. Whenever any vehicle or combination of vehicles is disabled or
for other reason may present a vehicular traffic hazard requiring
unusual care in approaching, overtaking or passing, the operator then
may display on the vehicle or combination of vehicles four
directional signals of a type complying with the provisions of this
section relating to directional signal devices in simultaneous
This is rediculous
I think it exposed the absurdity of fining an owner rather than the actual violator (as well as the general thought process of public "servants").
For accuracy, I would change the thread title to "Traffic Cams Always Not About Safety."