How far has Lance Armstrong fallen?

[Angie]

He's a scumbag who did some good things away from the sport. The things that he supposedly stood for, perseverance, hard work, strength have been tainted. Add in the fact that the reports have him not only being a willing participant, but being a ringleader, and insisting that other team members dope as well, and he's even more of a scumbag. Scumbags can do good things, but they're still scumbags.

Especially when the good things they do are still largely in their own self-interest.

[GrindingAway]

I don't know I mean Sheryl Crow was hot, but Anna Hansen isn't bad.

(Wait do people actually care about cycling - I mean I had a moderate interest back when some American was destroying everyone else, but now that that's over...meh.)

[VeloClone]

I hadn't heard that, but it only makes sense.

Now, I wish USADA could go after the NFL, MLB and PGA.

Of course they are waiting for the final word from UCI.

Tour de France would vacate 1999-2005 titles if UCI strips Lance Armstrong of titles - ESPN

[fatkid1974]

He's got further yet to fall. I predict Trek/Bontrager will disown him soon too.

My big question about lance is what is he going to do with himself now? He seems too driven to just fade into the shadows. He seems to like the spotlight.

He'll come to Iowa every year for RAGBRAI and people will fall all over themselves to get a picture of him.

[cyclone13]

Lance Armstrong and Livestrong | Lance Armstrong | OutsideOnline.com

"Equally interesting is what the foundation doesn’t do. Most people—including nearly everybody I surveyed while reporting this story—assume that Livestrong funnels large amounts of money into cancer research. Nope. The foundation gave out a total of $20 million in research grants between 1998 and 2005, the year it began phasing out its support of hard science. A note on the foundation’s website informs visitors that, as of 2010, it no longer even accepts research proposals"

[brett108]

He's a scumbag who did some good things away from the sport. The things that he supposedly stood for, perseverance, hard work, strength have been tainted. Add in the fact that the reports have him not only being a willing participant, but being a ringleader, and insisting that other team members dope as well, and he's even more of a scumbag. Scumbags can do good things, but they're still scumbags.

Still, he was tested more than any athlete in history, supposedly abused them for 7 plus years, and was never caught once? I am sorry, but I think when you are tested that much, you should have to get a positive in order to be indicted.

[dmclone]

I read a book of his about 10 years ago and I thought the guy seemed like a ****** back then.

[brett108]

Lance Armstrong and Livestrong | Lance Armstrong | OutsideOnline.com

"Equally interesting is what the foundation doesn’t do. Most people—including nearly everybody I surveyed while reporting this story—assume that Livestrong funnels large amounts of money into cancer research. Nope. The foundation gave out a total of $20 million in research grants between 1998 and 2005, the year it began phasing out its support of hard science. A note on the foundation’s website informs visitors that, as of 2010, it no longer even accepts research proposals"

This is only interesting to people that have no idea what cancer really means. We will likely go another thousand years and have no "cure" for cancer. They focus on treatment, which is alot more realistic.

[ThatllDoCy]

I'd say his fall from grace is complete from a competitive standpoint. He has done a lot of work for Cancer and that is a good thing.

[becrisgreg]

Still, he was tested more than any athlete in history, supposedly abused them for 7 plus years, and was never caught once? I am sorry, but I think when you are tested that much, you should have to get a positive in order to be indicted.

But he did test positive. He Just had the $ and a complicit UCI to make them go away. And can we agree to just drop the nonsense about most tested athlete. LA and his brand managers have shoved this myth down our throats about 500+ tests. If you read "Reasoned Decision" you would know that number to be inflated by nearly 100%. The brand managers must be counting all of the evaded tests too.

[CySmitty]

Lance doped big ******* deal. Of course he doped they all doped. He was still the best. He was the best trained. He firgured out the best equipment. Hell he probably doped better than the rest. Lance worked hard and it showed. BTW I am not a really a fan of LA but he did a lot for the sport and for that I'm grateful.

[kilgore_trout]

did he pretend to have cancer? seriously, did he?

[VeloClone]

did he pretend to have cancer? seriously, did he?

Seriously, dude? Yeah, I'm sure he had an orchiectomy just to keep up the facade.

[kilgore_trout]

you didn't say "no". how many tour de franks did he win before that?

Seriously, dude? Yeah, I'm sure he had an orchiectomy just to keep up the facade.

[lovemetheclones]

The walls are finally crumbling down for pretty boy Lance. He disgusts me. He is a liar, cheater, bully, and a sociopath. People say, oh, but he has done such good things for cancer research. Yes, he has, but no way would I want my kids looking up to Lance. There are plenty of people in this world who do good things that are honest, good people. If you have an extra 45 minutes, this video will open your eyes to the person Lance really is.

The World According to Lance - Four Corners

Okay, my vent is over. :) I have a friend who is a professional cyclist and its so disconcerting to see all this crap in the news when my friend has worked his butt off to race against cheats!