Re: Colorado and Oregon legalize Marijuana?
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VeloClone 
Be that as it may, it certainly is enough of a concern that I would think twice before openly selling, buying or using in those states.
Per the bill you can have 1oz on you, 6 mature plants, and you can only gift weed. There are provisions for the state/local governments to set up regulations for commercial sellers. If not done in conjuction with the Feds, I assume someone will start a huge growing/distribution system on the internet based in CO, make millions shipping it everywhere in the US, and end being prosecuted by Uncle Sam within 5 years. (a lot like the online gambling that they shut down last year)
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I can see both sides on legalizing all marijuana use, but for Iowa not to legalize medical marijuana is outright cruel.
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Can police take a blood sample based on just reasonable suspicion? Seems like it would face more scrutiny than police swabbing your cheek for DNA. Which is a hotly contested issue.
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the cops are gonna have to pay for their own weed :(
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Cyclonepride The federal government has no purview on this issue, whether it thinks it does or not.
And hell yes, legalize it and let's spend our wealth fighting real issues.
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alarson But the vast majority of enforcement is done at the state\local level. If it is legal at the state level, it will not be enforced nearly to the same degree.
It brings up a lot of issues though. For example, federal low income housing. The federal government oversees operations of such housing and has to comply with federal laws. Federal law says no, state law says yes. The federal government says that use or possession of marijuana is a federal offence and such people are subject to eviction. But if those evictions would go though local courts in most cases in which if they rule in favor of the state law puts the landlords in a difficult position.
Same goes for any federal lands or anyone that works for the federal government. I know Iowa doesn't have much for federal lands but Oregon and Colorado and Washington (who BTW also voted to legalize it) all have 50% or more of the state land area owned by the federal government in the way of BLM, Forest Service and military lands. Also if you work for the federal government and live in one of those states, you can be fired for participating in your own time in consumption of the product that is allowed by the state.
And what about big employers (such as walmart)? Can they legally turn someone down for employment for failing a drug test in those states?
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VeloClone Be that as it may, it certainly is enough of a concern that I would think twice before openly selling, buying or using in those states.
Yeah, look at California. Feds are all over the sale of medicinal right now. Oaksterdam anybody?
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Rabbuk Can police take a blood sample based on just reasonable suspicion? Seems like it would face more scrutiny than police swabbing your cheek for DNA. Which is a hotly contested issue.
I think its something along the lines of if they smell it. So I guess no hot boxing in Washington
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DurangoCy Per the bill you can have 1oz on you, 6 mature plants, and you can only gift weed. There are provisions for the state/local governments to set up regulations for commercial sellers. If not done in conjuction with the Feds, I assume someone will start a huge growing/distribution system on the internet based in CO, make millions shipping it everywhere in the US, and end being prosecuted by Uncle Sam within 5 years. (a lot like the online gambling that they shut down last year)
If you can only gift it and not sell it, there is no increase in revenue. Correct?
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singsing Yeah, look at California. Feds are all over the sale of medicinal right now. Oaksterdam anybody?
Yeah and jumping back to above, what if you get stopped by the boarder patrol? In Washington's case, there is a lot being smuggled over the Canadian boarder. If you live in that area, it is reasonable to be very concerned about being caught with it by the boarder patrol and face possible smuggling laws even if you got it legally within the state.
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Originally Posted by
DurangoCy Per the bill you can have 1oz on you, 6 mature plants, and you can only gift weed. There are provisions for the state/local governments to set up regulations for commercial sellers. If not done in conjuction with the Feds, I assume someone will start a huge growing/distribution system on the internet based in CO, make millions shipping it everywhere in the US, and end being prosecuted by Uncle Sam within 5 years. (a lot like the online gambling that they shut down last year)
Gifting weed gives new meaning to Christmas tree.
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farminclone If you can only gift it and not sell it, there is no increase in revenue. Correct?
No, retailers will have licenses just like alcohol. You can't sell alcohol yourself, if you have a keg and sell cups you can be charged with bootlegging.
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farminclone If you can only gift it and not sell it, there is no increase in revenue. Correct?
Commercial sellers will probably have to pay for certification to grow, and undoubtedly, their sales will be taxed.
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To me if the government was smart they would legalize and tax, it would need a increase in regulations and enforcement, which would in turn create jobs, which this tax would in turn over time work toward get us out of this debt.
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Being able to stop at the local weed store after a hard day to pick up a couple of legal joints to kick back and relax with sounds kind of nice. I don't smoke by the way, never really have on a regular basis, but if it was legal you better believe I'd have some at the house for a rainy day.
Also, I agree with many of the posters above. The argument for it being illegal is non existent. You tax it, you put a legal age on it, you enforce it like you would with alcohol in terms of driving, and you stop spending the massive amounts of government funds on arresting people because they have a dime bag on their person. It's ridiculous.
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jaretac Yeah and jumping back to above, what if you get stopped by the boarder patrol? In Washington's case, there is a lot being smuggled over the Canadian boarder. If you live in that area, it is reasonable to be very concerned about being caught with it by the boarder patrol and face possible smuggling laws even if you got it legally within the state.
If you have the legal amount, they aren't going to press smuggling charges. I don't believe drug dealers are smuggling an ounce at a time into Canada.
