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DistrictCyclone 
This had nothing to do with Vader's military strategery, but because of structural dissonance among the Empire's goals. While the Empire simply wanted to crush the Rebellion and rule the galaxy, Vader was charged with the objective of turning his son to the Dark Side. Doing so required that Luke be kept alive. If the Empire destroyed the base at Hoth, they'd have lost out on the potential to capture someone who would have been a major asset when enforcing their dominance further down the road. It's a classic "they can't have their cake and eat it too" problem. Besides, Vader was always just following orders, like a good civil servant.
I feel like this debate should be filmed in black and white at a convenience store counter.
At the time of the Hoth invasion Vader hadn't been told Skywalker was to be turned yet
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Not the movies but can I say Ernest T. Bass? I always thought he was going to beat the **** out of Barney and it scared me.
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DistrictCyclone This had nothing to do with Vader's military strategery, but because of structural dissonance among the Empire's goals. While the Empire simply wanted to crush the Rebellion and rule the galaxy, Vader was charged with the objective of turning his son to the Dark Side. Doing so required that Luke be kept alive. If the Empire destroyed the base at Hoth, they'd have lost out on the potential to capture someone who would have been a major asset when enforcing their dominance further down the road. It's a classic "they can't have their cake and eat it too" problem. Besides, Vader was always just following orders, like a good civil servant.
I feel like this debate should be filmed in black and white at a convenience store counter.
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The bad guy in Valkyrie.:rolleyes:
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cowgirl836
What about this one?
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Re: All-time Best Movie Villains
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Originally Posted by
DistrictCyclone This had nothing to do with Vader's military strategery, but because of structural dissonance among the Empire's goals. While the Empire simply wanted to crush the Rebellion and rule the galaxy, Vader was charged with the objective of turning his son to the Dark Side. Doing so required that Luke be kept alive. If the Empire destroyed the base at Hoth, they'd have lost out on the potential to capture someone who would have been a major asset when enforcing their dominance further down the road. It's a classic "they can't have their cake and eat it too" problem. Besides, Vader was always just following orders, like a good civil servant.
I feel like this debate should be filmed in black and white at a convenience store counter.
Vader was nerfed after getting beat down by Obi-Wan on Mustafar. When he became more machine than man he lost some of his power in the force. I'm pretty sure he couldn't use force lightning because of this.
That's one of the big reasons the Emperor wanted to replace him as his apprentice with Luke.
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That looks like Nurse Ratched (who should definitely make the list), but I don't remember her ever holding a sledgehammer.
The villains from the last two Quentin Tarantino movies have been pretty badass, too.
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DistrictCyclone That looks like Nurse Ratched (who should definitely make the list), but I don't remember her ever holding a sledgehammer.
The villains from the last two Quentin Tarantino movies have been pretty badass, too.
The chick from Misery.
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DistrictCyclone This had nothing to do with Vader's military strategery, but because of structural dissonance among the Empire's goals. While the Empire simply wanted to crush the Rebellion and rule the galaxy, Vader was charged with the objective of turning his son to the Dark Side. Doing so required that Luke be kept alive. If the Empire destroyed the base at Hoth, they'd have lost out on the potential to capture someone who would have been a major asset when enforcing their dominance further down the road. It's a classic "they can't have their cake and eat it too" problem. Besides, Vader was always just following orders, like a good civil servant.
I feel like this debate should be filmed in black and white at a convenience store counter.
Had Vader been given that directive yet? That came later. He might have had suspicions about Luke, but from what the emperor told him, Vader thought his wife and kids were dead.
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That's a bingo.
