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05-06-2008, 03:49 PM
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Credits: 455,006 NFL: Chiefs MLB: Cubs | Is the earth moving closer to the Sun | | Is the earth moving closer to the Sun or is the earth moving away from the sun? just imagine a runner going around a track.....the track is 12 feet wide and one mile in length and the runner maintains an average speed of 10 miles per hour. The runner will complete one revolution of the track quicker if he or she runs on the inner edge of the track and, conversely, the length of time to complete one revolution of the track from the outer edge will be slightly longer. The "Orbital Variance Theory" postulates that the Earth's orbit fluctuates over vast expanses of time (ages) and varies (in a precise path) from the outside of the orbital "ecliptic" (track) to the inside of the orbital "ecliptic"...like the runner mentioned above. When the Earth is on the outer side of the track (orbit) she is farther from the Sun than when she is orbiting on the inside edge of the track. The outer orbital location produces ice ages and the inner orbit produces gradual "great flooding" and comfortable tropical living for dinosaurs. The gradual shifting from the outer orbit to inner orbit contributes to the Precession of the Equinox and the reverse shift (inner to outer) will produce a RE-cession of the Equinox. Hypothetically, there is a mean period where the tropical and sidereal systems will be precisely aligned. The orbital fluctuations have a minuscule measurable effect on the (mean) length of a day and the Earth still rotates on her axis once every 24 hours, however, the Earth's gradually contracting orbit would trim some time off of the length of a year (one trip around the Sun). As our measuring devices have become more sophisticated we have discovered that the actual average length of a year has been decreasing incrementally, however, our measurements have been performed in a VERY SMALL window (a 2000 year time frame) and we have presumed that our measurements are constants. In the past (at least) 100 years, the Earth's orbit (according to the Orbital Variance Theory) has moved us a bit closer to the Sun. When you consider that the Earth's tilt on her axis (approximately 23 degrees) is what causes seasonal changes (Summer to Winter) it is quite reasonable to believe that a gradual orbital variance will produce dramatic climate fluctuations (ice ages) over the eons. Geologically speaking, I suggest (also) that we are presently at the tail end of the last ice age and that we are gradually moving closer to the Sun. | www.FIREHERMEDWARDS.COM
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05-06-2008, 03:50 PM
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I sure hope so. Maybe winter can end at the end of January then.
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05-06-2008, 03:52 PM
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My theory is that Al Gore is actually in outer space pushing us closer to the sun to 'create' global warming.
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Credits: 245,296 Year: 99 NFL: Chiefs | Re: Is the earth moving closer to the Sun | | Originally Posted by Dave19642006 Is the earth moving closer to the Sun or is the earth moving away from the sun? just imagine a runner going around a track.....the track is 12 feet wide and one mile in length and the runner maintains an average speed of 10 miles per hour. The runner will complete one revolution of the track quicker if he or she runs on the inner edge of the track and, conversely, the length of time to complete one revolution of the track from the outer edge will be slightly longer. The "Orbital Variance Theory" postulates that the Earth's orbit fluctuates over vast expanses of time (ages) and varies (in a precise path) from the outside of the orbital "ecliptic" (track) to the inside of the orbital "ecliptic"...like the runner mentioned above. When the Earth is on the outer side of the track (orbit) she is farther from the Sun than when she is orbiting on the inside edge of the track. The outer orbital location produces ice ages and the inner orbit produces gradual "great flooding" and comfortable tropical living for dinosaurs. The gradual shifting from the outer orbit to inner orbit contributes to the Precession of the Equinox and the reverse shift (inner to outer) will produce a RE-cession of the Equinox. Hypothetically, there is a mean period where the tropical and sidereal systems will be precisely aligned. The orbital fluctuations have a minuscule measurable effect on the (mean) length of a day and the Earth still rotates on her axis once every 24 hours, however, the Earth's gradually contracting orbit would trim some time off of the length of a year (one trip around the Sun). As our measuring devices have become more sophisticated we have discovered that the actual average length of a year has been decreasing incrementally, however, our measurements have been performed in a VERY SMALL window (a 2000 year time frame) and we have presumed that our measurements are constants. In the past (at least) 100 years, the Earth's orbit (according to the Orbital Variance Theory) has moved us a bit closer to the Sun. When you consider that the Earth's tilt on her axis (approximately 23 degrees) is what causes seasonal changes (Summer to Winter) it is quite reasonable to believe that a gradual orbital variance will produce dramatic climate fluctuations (ice ages) over the eons. Geologically speaking, I suggest (also) that we are presently at the tail end of the last ice age and that we are gradually moving closer to the Sun. Interesting theory. Where'd you read this?
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05-06-2008, 03:57 PM
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05-06-2008, 04:01 PM
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Credits: 232,673 Year: 2007 Degree: Finance NFL: Bills NBA: Knicks MLB: Red Sox | Re: Is the earth moving closer to the Sun | | Originally Posted by Cyclonepride Global warming is causing a magnetic field that is drawing us towards our fiery doom. Unless we send Al Gore 48 zillion dollars. Maybe he should bring this up with that lady from Des Moines who likes to give away money to crazy things, like Nigerian lotteries.
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05-06-2008, 04:04 PM
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I was actually thinking about this the other day after watching a show that talked about elliptical orbits... how in the world do we think we are right on so much of this, and what if the earth's trajectory is not as exact as we think it is?
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05-06-2008, 04:13 PM
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It certainly feels like it today. It is a pretty hot sun out there. That also means that skimpy girls clothing comes out   .
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05-06-2008, 04:19 PM
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05-06-2008, 04:43 PM
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05-06-2008, 04:46 PM
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Damn, I was looking forward to the start of the next ice age.
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05-06-2008, 04:54 PM
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05-06-2008, 05:06 PM
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So by your theory are you stating dinosaurs are making a comeback?
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05-07-2008, 12:23 AM
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My eyes hurt, trying to read that.
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05-07-2008, 12:29 AM
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Credits: 959,386 | Re: Is the earth moving closer to the Sun | | Originally Posted by Dave19642006 Geologically speaking, I suggest (also) that we are presently at the tail end of the last ice age and that we are gradually moving closer to the Sun.
I thought the sun looked bigger lately.
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