Student strip searches

**Phaedrus** · 07-14-2008, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Kyle

Its easy to say this from afar when one just looks at the award amounts. However, it is important to keep in mind that a jury of people from the community that actually had to sit in the court room and hear all of the facts of the case is what returns those verdicts.

And it's why smart lawyers who do class action lawsuits often "jury shop" in places that have a history of returning ridiculously high punitive damages.....

**Kyle** · 07-14-2008, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by Phaedrus

What amazes me, is that there actually ARE judges who think it's okay to strip-search 13 year old girls over OTC medication like Advil or Tylenol.

Or that "Zero-Tolerance" should be supported.

Here's one: I have "Zero Tolerance" for idiots who support "Zero Tolerance" in schools or anyplace else.

You mean you want some liberal justices legislating from the bench to take authority away from school officials?

/sarcasm

I would be willing to bet a significant amount of money that Thomas would have been in the minority on this issue.

**Kyle** · 07-14-2008, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Phaedrus

And it's why smart lawyers who do class action lawsuits often "jury shop" in places that have a history of returning ridiculously high punitive damages.....

Punitive damages awards are rare, but even more rare is such an award that I don't agree with.

**Phaedrus** · 07-14-2008, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kyle

You mean you want some liberal justices legislating from the bench to take authority away from school officials?

/sarcasm

I would be willing to bet a significant amount of money that Thomas would have been in the minority on this issue.

"Speculation, your honor!"

"Sustained..."

(Paint me into an ethical corner, willya!)

**Phaedrus** · 07-14-2008, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Kyle

Punitive damages awards are rare, but even more rare is such an award that I don't agree with.

[W.C. Fields Voice] Ehhhh, I knew thish lawyer.... Nevah saw an award he didn't like.... If he wins, they pay him. If he loses, they pay him....[/W.C. Fields Voice]

**tigershoops31** · 07-14-2008, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Phaedrus

What amazes me, is that there actually ARE judges who think it's okay to strip-search 13 year old girls over OTC medication like Advil or Tylenol.

Obviously the guy was an idiot to strip search her, but from reading it I understood that it was not OTC but rather prescription strength pain reliever that they had gotten previous reports from parents that other kids were distributing them to their children to basically "get high".

**Kyle** · 07-14-2008, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by tigershoops31

Obviously the guy was an idiot to strip search her, but from reading it I understood that it was not OTC but rather prescription strength pain reliever that they had gotten previous reports from parents that other kids were distributing them to their children to basically "get high".

I actually never read the article, but from the posts I saw it was supposedly 800mg ibuprofen. Even drug-abusing junior high kids could figure out they just need to take 4 pills of the over-the-counter stuff. I've alse taken that much ibuprofen on a number of occasions - it doesn't do much if anything.

**matmann22** · 07-14-2008, 02:18 PM

Glenn Beck was talking about this on his show this morning...

Is it true that the 'Conservatives' voted on the losing side of this because they thought it wasn't the courts job to decide this ?

This ruling meanas the 9th Circus court of appealis is now about 1 for 100 getting their rulings correct.