'09 Ames HS Team vs. past Ames State Champs

**t-noah** · 01-20-2009, 05:41 PM

I realize Ames hasn't won State yet, and don't wish to jinx them, but provided they do win State this year, or even if they don't, how does the current Ames team compare w/ past Ames State Champs? I've never seen the current team play, nor did I ever see Hoiberg's team of '91, but I do remember the '73 and '76 teams. They were pretty good, especially the '73 team.

The '73 team, at the time, was the best team ever in the state, IMO. Schneider, Burguson, Carrol, et al. They were tall too, 6'11'', 6'7", 6'4'", 6'2", 6'2".

Ames' '76 squad had Harmison 6'9", Burguson (6'4" I think), Klingseis 6'3".

I did some checking, and didn't know that Ames also won State back in '36, '45, and '55 (probably when there was only one class). And no, I can't remember THAT far back!

**brianhos** · 01-20-2009, 06:00 PM

90-91 was a pretty good team.

**isubball** · 01-20-2009, 06:02 PM

You cant jinx them, they are so good it wont even matter. AMes will win state

**Cyclone1985** · 01-20-2009, 06:10 PM

I will say the 2004 team was one of the most under acheiving teams ive witnessed....
C- Marsden -Played at ISU
F- Bachoven -Played at Navy
F- Thompson -Here now
G- Arnaud -D1 athlete
G- Luthe -Great athlete, dont know if he went anywhere

I dont know how this team didnt win state... might have been the coach. But when you have 3 D1 bball players 6'10", theres not a lot of excuses.

**Clones85'** · 01-20-2009, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone1985

I will say the 2004 team was one of the most under acheiving teams ive witnessed....
C- Marsden -Played at ISU
F- Bachoven -Played at Navy
F- Thompson -Here now
G- Arnaud -D1 athlete
G- Luthe -Great athlete, dont know if he went anywhere

I dont know how this team didnt win state... might have been the coach. But when you have 3 D1 bball players 6'10", theres not a lot of excuses.

Ames had a player in 2003 that was really strong and their best post player. Who was that?

**iowaboy** · 01-20-2009, 06:32 PM

The state BB championship will go thru Cedar Rapids.

**uro cy** · 01-20-2009, 07:37 PM

AHS has had some teams crippled by coaching in the past

**cybsball20** · 01-21-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Cyclone1985

I will say the 2004 team was one of the most under acheiving teams ive witnessed....
C- Marsden -Played at ISU
F- Bachoven -Played at Navy
F- Thompson -Here now
G- Arnaud -D1 athlete
G- Luthe -Great athlete, dont know if he went anywhere

I dont know how this team didnt win state... might have been the coach. But when you have 3 D1 bball players 6'10", theres not a lot of excuses.

That was the year I really started to question Marsden and Thompson as players. They both may have been ranked but they weren't 'winners'. No excuse for a team with that front line not to dominate and they didn't dominate at all...

**mplscyclone** · 01-21-2009, 12:40 PM

I'm surprised this many follow HS basketball. I can't really get into it. If I had a kid in school or if I worked for a NCAA basketball team it'd be different however....

**pulse** · 01-21-2009, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by uro cy

AHS has had some teams crippled by coaching in the past

Dennis Cullinan was fired in 2004 for among other things being verbally abusive and demeaning to players. Five players quit the team that year.

**psycln11** · 01-21-2009, 01:15 PM

The '91 team had

Hoiberg (6'4) - enough said
Mike Bergan (5'10 ish) - Played PG for St. Thomas in MN
Nathan Koch (6'5) - Walked on to Iowa baseball team as a pitcher, threw out his arm & then walked onto the basketball team. I remember hearing that he called Coach Hallihan at ISU who then called the Iowa staff on his behalf. Won vertical leap contest
Seth Anderson (6-2) - schollarship at UNI in basketball
Rob Cain (6-8) - Played for Wartburg.

Bench:
Tim Legg - backup PG
Boma Leuth - 3 point specialist
Pete Fretz - 6-8 backup C

**CYKOFAN** · 01-21-2009, 03:16 PM

67 was another great Ames team with Dick Gibbs, who played quite a few years in the NBA, Rick Engel, who starred for ISU, Ron Watson, who played d-2 football I believe and was in the ISU athletic department for awhile, and guards named Bappe and Beeman who I both believe played d-3 basketball.

**candg4ever** · 01-21-2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by iowaboy

The state BB championship will go thru Cedar Rapids.

Are you serious? Have you seen what AHS has been doing to their opponents? Most games are laughers, and that's with Barnes sharing the rock, IMO he could put up 40-50 pts. a game any time he wanted to. Besides all that, they're not a one-trick pony. They play very well as a team and have a variety of weapons.

**cybsball20** · 01-21-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by candg4ever

Are you serious? Have you seen what AHS has been doing to their opponents? Most games are laughers, and that's with Barnes sharing the rock, IMO he could put up 40-50 pts. a game any time he wanted to. Besides all that, they're not a one-trick pony. They play very well as a team and have a variety of weapons.

Sounds very similar to Vince Carter in high school. He could have DOMINATED all by himself, but they had a good team and he shared the rock...