LOST: This Place is Death

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Originally Posted by mapnerd

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't believe that anybody knows about the diamonds.

I thought the episode of Nikki and Paolo and the spider was created because studio execs wanted to stretch the series out longer and it was basically a filler episode. But, maybe the spider poison plays an important role with Locke. That's an interesting idea.

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I remember that Sawyer found the diamonds, and threw them in the grave before burying them. Wikipedia confirms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expos%C3%A9_(Lost)

"Sawyer returns, having found the diamonds, and the other survivors accuse him of being the killer because Desmond saw him arguing with Nikki just that morning. He gives the diamonds to Sun, but she later confronts him about kidnapping her and returns the diamonds because "they're worthless here." The survivors then hold a funeral for Nikki and Paulo, where Sawyer pours the pouch of diamonds into the grave. Nikki's eyelids open just as Hurley and Sawyer are filling the grave, burying her and Paulo alive."

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Originally Posted by isukendall

I remember that Sawyer found the diamonds, and threw them in the grave before burying them. Wikipedia confirms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expos%C3%A9_(Lost)

"Sawyer returns, having found the diamonds, and the other survivors accuse him of being the killer because Desmond saw him arguing with Nikki just that morning. He gives the diamonds to Sun, but she later confronts him about kidnapping her and returns the diamonds because "they're worthless here." The survivors then hold a funeral for Nikki and Paulo, where Sawyer pours the pouch of diamonds into the grave. Nikki's eyelids open just as Hurley and Sawyer are filling the grave, burying her and Paulo alive."

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That Nikki chick was unreal hot.

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Originally Posted by isukendall

I remember that Sawyer found the diamonds, and threw them in the grave before burying them. Wikipedia confirms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expos%C3%A9_(Lost)

"Sawyer returns, having found the diamonds, and the other survivors accuse him of being the killer because Desmond saw him arguing with Nikki just that morning. He gives the diamonds to Sun, but she later confronts him about kidnapping her and returns the diamonds because "they're worthless here." The survivors then hold a funeral for Nikki and Paulo, where Sawyer pours the pouch of diamonds into the grave. Nikki's eyelids open just as Hurley and Sawyer are filling the grave, burying her and Paulo alive."

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Oh yeah, man I failed today's Lost test. I should have remembered that. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by The_Architect

That Nikki chick was unreal hot.

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Oh, I forgot to mention that in my post also. People might have missed that :jimlad:

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Originally Posted by maui6651

There's also the possibility that Ellie, the girl holding the gun to Faraday's head in the 1954 episode a few weeks ago, was his mom. The two names are similar, her age looks about right, and Faraday said that she looked familiar. That could be an artifact of time travel though (maybe he meets her while their stuck during the Dharma years?).

I thought it was a great episode. I loved the explanation for why time was freaking out: the wheel was stuck. It was so simple, but actually kind of fit.

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I remember thinking that Ellie must be Faradays mom when he looked like he recognized her.

Thanks to the poster who remembered that she was the jeweler. I knew I remembered her face from before and it was bugging me.

That was a great episode! If I had to nitpick, the only part I didn't like about it was "Hey, here's Rousseau and how her team died, okay, backstory over." I figured they'd spend at least an episode doing a "The Other 48 Days" style plot. I don't think they're done showing us Rousseau's backstory, but it's kinda disheartening to leave us hanging like that. How does Ben get Rousseau's baby? Why do the flashes happen?

I guess I'm sort of bummed because I really thought past Ben would meet up with the time traveling losties when he takes Alex, and that would be how he kinda knew that the plane was going to crash in 2004. I also thought the flashes were preventing anything paradoxical from happening (Kate and Claire seeing future Sawyer in the jungle, being shot at while they're on the canoe out in the ocean)... but they appeared to happen in quicker succession as the situation got to be more dire.

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Originally Posted by AirWalke

That was a great episode! If I had to nitpick, the only part I didn't like about it was "Hey, here's Rousseau and how her team died, okay, backstory over." I figured they'd spend at least an episode doing a "The Other 48 Days" style plot. I don't think they're done showing us Rousseau's backstory, but it's kinda disheartening to leave us hanging like that. How does Ben get Rousseau's baby? Why do the flashes happen?

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I thought the flashes part of this season was explained during the last part of the episode, it was the donkey wheel messing stuff up, that's what I thought I got from it anyway.

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Originally Posted by AirWalke

That was a great episode! If I had to nitpick, the only part I didn't like about it was "Hey, here's Rousseau and how her team died, okay, backstory over." I figured they'd spend at least an episode doing a "The Other 48 Days" style plot. I don't think they're done showing us Rousseau's backstory, but it's kinda disheartening to leave us hanging like that. How does Ben get Rousseau's baby? Why do the flashes happen?

I guess I'm sort of bummed because I really thought past Ben would meet up with the time traveling losties when he takes Alex, and that would be how he kinda knew that the plane was going to crash in 2004. I also thought the flashes were preventing anything paradoxical from happening (Kate and Claire seeing future Sawyer in the jungle, being shot at while they're on the canoe out in the ocean)... but they appeared to happen in quicker succession as the situation got to be more dire.

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Didn't some of the other time traveling losties get killed in the flaming arrow attack, and the "others" army attack. Granted they had the same story significance as the red-shirted Enterprise crew members that transported down to the planet with Kirk & Spock, but for them, a devastating occurance. They have been on that island all that time with their decaying corpses.

I just read in tv guide that Jacks grandfather knows something about the island. I think Jacks dad has been there before as well.


Also says that Sawyer, Juliette, Jin and crew will meet up with a young Ben for at least 4 episodes to fill in his rise to power.

One of these sentences is true according to writers:

A: Ben is Lockes brother
B: Charlotte is the grown up Annie (bens childhood friend)
C: Miles is Marvin Candles son.

Im not sure which one to believe, but if I were to pick one, I would say Ben and Locke are brothers. A Cain and Abel type dynamic.

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Originally Posted by bostinelosd

I just read in tv guide that Jacks grandfather knows something about the island. I think Jacks dad has been there before as well.


Also says that Sawyer, Juliette, Jin and crew will meet up with a young Ben for at least 4 episodes to fill in his rise to power.

One of these sentences is true according to writers:

A: Ben is Lockes brother
B: Charlotte is the grown up Annie (bens childhood friend)
C: Miles is Marvin Candles son.

Im not sure which one to believe, but if I were to pick one, I would say Ben and Locke are brothers. A Cain and Abel type dynamic.

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Only one of those things is true? Hmm... I'd never thought of or heard "A" before, but I've heard "B" mentioned elsewhere as a possibility and thought of "C" myself. I was kind of hoping one or all of them could be true.

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Originally Posted by bostinelosd

I just read in tv guide that Jacks grandfather knows something about the island. I think Jacks dad has been there before as well.


Also says that Sawyer, Juliette, Jin and crew will meet up with a young Ben for at least 4 episodes to fill in his rise to power.

One of these sentences is true according to writers:

A: Ben is Lockes brother
B: Charlotte is the grown up Annie (bens childhood friend)
C: Miles is Marvin Candles son.

Im not sure which one to believe, but if I were to pick one, I would say Ben and Locke are brothers. A Cain and Abel type dynamic.

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I think I would go with C. if I were guessing. Charlotte seems too young for B, and A doesn't seem to make sense because we supposedly know who both of Ben's parents are and neither are Locke's. Could be interesting though. I was thinking Miles was Marvin Candle's son before.

All the little things are slowly being explained. In season 1 when Danielle led the Losties to the Black Rock, she mentioned someone losing their arm. The footprints Boone and Locke followed that eventually led them to the hatch now had an origin.

I swear Smokey looked like a dog dragging Montand through the jungle. This would support the Cereberus theory. Natural or mechinical, I have no idea.

Lost gave us a severed arm and a Theisman-esque leg injury.

This is why we watch Lost.

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Originally Posted by bostinelosd

I just read in tv guide that Jacks grandfather knows something about the island. I think Jacks dad has been there before as well.


Also says that Sawyer, Juliette, Jin and crew will meet up with a young Ben for at least 4 episodes to fill in his rise to power.

One of these sentences is true according to writers:

A: Ben is Lockes brother
B: Charlotte is the grown up Annie (bens childhood friend)
C: Miles is Marvin Candles son.

Im not sure which one to believe, but if I were to pick one, I would say Ben and Locke are brothers. A Cain and Abel type dynamic.

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It's C. If you recall the episode that begins with Candle's morning ritual; feeding the baby, etc...It's pretty obvious that they showed us this so they could tell us Miles was that baby.

OK, I'm stumped and I don't remember Marvin Candle. Who is that?

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Originally Posted by The_Architect

OK, I'm stumped and I don't remember Marvin Candle. Who is that?

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The guy from the orientation films.