Nevada may loosen its smoking restrictions

**alaskaguy** · 04-20-2009, 07:36 PM

It had been illegal in Nevada to allow smoking in establishments that serve food. Legislation is expected to pass to allow smoking in these establishments as long as minor are not allowed in.

The tavern owners claimed they lost as much as a quarter of their business after the smoking ban was approved

Link:
Nevada May Ease Up On Smoking Ban - Health Blog - WSJ

**dosry5** · 04-20-2009, 07:37 PM

That's awesome!!! Smoking is great!!! Wonderful idea!!!

**alaskaguy** · 04-20-2009, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by dosry5

That's awesome!!!

Obviously you are being sarcastic, but perhaps you wouldn't be so sarcastic if you were a tavern owner.

**uro cy** · 04-20-2009, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by alaskaguy

Obviously you are being sarcastic, but perhaps you wouldn't be so sarcastic if you were a tavern owner.

Maybe not if you were a thoracic surgeon or oncologist

**Clonehomer** · 04-20-2009, 07:56 PM

Anyone else get confused when they read this? The first thing that came to mind was wouldn't the state law susperseed this legislation? Then I realized I've lived in central Iowa too long.

**dosry5** · 04-20-2009, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by alaskaguy

Obviously you are being sarcastic, but perhaps you wouldn't be so sarcastic if you were a tavern owner.

Yes, feeling sorry for the tavern owner. Good call. In the name of being economically fair we should halt all progress in this country. Smoking kills users and those exposed to it. It's ill-effects weren't known to it's users until long after it had an addicted stranglehold on this country and most of the world......but let's not correct a wrong now that we have better science and knowledge. Let's be more concerned that a bar owner makes enough money. Darwinism at it's best.

**dmclone** · 04-20-2009, 07:57 PM

Have you guys ever been to the nice casino's in Vegas? They allow smoking all over and I've never been bothered by it. If every bar had ventilation like that I wouldn't have a problem with smoking.

**alaskaguy** · 04-20-2009, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by dosry5

Yes, feeling sorry for the tavern owner. Good call. In the name of being economically fair we should halt all progress in this country. Smoking kills users and those exposed to it. It's ill-effects weren't known to it's users until long after it had an addicted stranglehold on this country and most of the world......but let's not correct a wrong now that we have better science and knowledge. Let's be more concerned that a bar owner makes enough money. Darwinism at it's best.

So every potential health risk should be controlled by the government regardless of what people themselves may want? That is not the type of government I seek.

**dosry5** · 04-20-2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by alaskaguy

So every potential health risk should be controlled by the government regardless of what people themselves may want? That is not the type of government I seek.

Well...this is headed to the cave.

No, I don't want that type of government either. But when it comes to smoking--you do it in public and your actions adversely effect the health of others. Those addicted to it won't stop doing it in public...so the government should step in. No different really than enforcing a speed limit. Driving insanely fast endangers the lives of others. It used to be lawful, but eventually the inherent danger in it caused the government to step in and regulate it. Same here, but only worse--this is an addiction.

**dmclone** · 04-20-2009, 08:10 PM

Oh not again

**alaskaguy** · 04-20-2009, 08:10 PM

IMO it is quite a bit different than enforcing the speed limit. In fact, I see few similarities.

Roads are publicly owned. Taverns are privately owned.

People don't have choices when it comes to driving on the roads while they do have a choice where to dine.

**LindenCy** · 04-20-2009, 08:11 PM

I love this smoking thread as much as the Bicycle vs. car thread last week!

**Cyclone62** · 04-20-2009, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by LindenCy

I love this smoking thread as much as the Bicycle vs. car thread last week!

I can't wait until we point out that alcohol also ruins lives and kills people, yet you can still do that at restaurants!

**dmclone** · 04-20-2009, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclone62

I can't wait until we point out that alcohol also ruins lives and kills people, yet you can still do that at restaurants!

Before anyone else says it, I also hate kids and would like to see them banned at restaurants. In fact I'd rather have someone blow smoke in my face than a child crying.

**Cyclone62** · 04-20-2009, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by dmclone

Before anyone else says it, I also hate kids and would like to see them banned at restaurants. In fact I'd rather have someone blow smoke in my face than a child crying.

Don't forget about the food safety laws argument.

Or the "poor bartenders" posts.