Question for lawyers

**gogagig** · 09-02-2009, 11:08 AM

If I want X to provide me with a notarized signature for the document he is required to sign on, but he does not want to provide a notarized signature but a regular signature, do I have any legal way to get his notarized signature?

**bos** · 09-02-2009, 11:10 AM

Why the heck would he not want a notary? He either doesnt understand the concept, or he is shady.

**Incyte** · 09-02-2009, 11:13 AM

You can't force somebody to give a signature. I would however suggest you tell him you will accept nothing but a notarized sig.

What's the doc and why must it be notarized?

**CyPride** · 09-02-2009, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by gogagig

If I want X to provide me with a notarized signature for the document he is required to sign on, but he does not want to provide a notarized signature but a regular signature, do I have any legal way to get his notarized signature?

I'd suggest providing more detail to get better answers. Getting a notarized signature should be no problem - other than a hassle/inconvenience. All a notary is doing is confirming the person signing is who he says he is. Nothing more, nothing less. Why do you want it notarized?

**Wallacelantz** · 09-02-2009, 11:28 AM

Some people are hesitant to give notarized signatures because of the hassle and/or fee that some places charge for notary service. If this is his hang up search notaries on the SOS website Notary Search
there is probably someone that he works with that will do it for nothing. Or if he is a Cyclone fan and will be at the game thursday let me know and i will notarize it for him at the tailgate.

**CyPride** · 09-02-2009, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Wallacelantz

Some people are hesitant to give notarized signatures because of the hassle and/or fee that some places charge for notary service. If this is his hang up search notaries on the SOS website Notary Search
there is probably someone that he works with that will do it for nothing. Or if he is a Cyclone fan and will be at the game thursday let me know and i will notarize it for him at the tailgate.

If either party has a bank relationship, the bank will more than likely do it for free. WF does it for me for free when the need be.

**gogagig** · 09-02-2009, 12:03 PM

I need to get my diploma to be notarized in order to apply for a visiting researcher position overseas. But of course, diplomas typically have only "stamped" signatures on them. The school refused to provide me with the notarization, even though there are several notaries in the building.

**CyPride** · 09-02-2009, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by gogagig

I need to get my diploma to be notarized in order to apply for a visiting researcher position overseas. But of course, diplomas typically have only "stamped" signatures on them. The school refused to provide me with the notarization, even though there are several notaries in the building.

Wow, what school is this? It is lame that they won't help you with your need. I can see why the oversea company would want this - to prevent fraud.

**BKLYNCyclone** · 09-02-2009, 12:25 PM

Sometimes items get lost in translation. You should confirm with the company abroad that they need "notarized" rather than "sealed." Note that ISU sends "sealed" transcripts directly to people if you provide the postage. This is how many professional organizations deal with the authenticity in the U.S.

**gogagig** · 09-02-2009, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by BKLYNCyclone

Sometimes items get lost in translation. You should confirm with the company abroad that they need "notarized" rather than "sealed." Note that ISU sends "sealed" transcripts directly to people if you provide the postage. This is how many professional organizations deal with the authenticity in the U.S.

It definitely needs to be first (ii) notarized, then (ii) the notarization has to be declared legal by the Iowa Secretary of State with a Apostille stamp.

It's a long, bureaucratic process. But it would be nice if schools were more helpful with this!

**kilgore_trout** · 09-02-2009, 12:34 PM

Maybe you're being too literal. Most school (college/university) certifications are accompanied by seals, stamps, etc. to verify authenticity.

Your employer should probably realize this is how it's handled in the US.

If not, ask to speak to the registrar in person.
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Originally Posted by gogagig

I need to get my diploma to be notarized in order to apply for a visiting researcher position overseas. But of course, diplomas typically have only "stamped" signatures on them. The school refused to provide me with the notarization, even though there are several notaries in the building.

**RandomFan** · 09-02-2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by gogagig

I need to get my diploma to be notarized in order to apply for a visiting researcher position overseas. But of course, diplomas typically have only "stamped" signatures on them. The school refused to provide me with the notarization, even though there are several notaries in the building.

Wow! You are either dealing with a real jerk or you went to a crappy school. What school is it? And is there anyone higher up the food chain you could talk to?

**Incyte** · 09-02-2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by gogagig

It definitely needs to be first (ii) notarized, then (ii) the notarization has to be declared legal by the Iowa Secretary of State with a Apostille stamp.

It's a long, bureaucratic process. But it would be nice if schools were more helpful with this!

Can you get it Certified and then get your Apostille stamp?

**CyPride** · 09-02-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Incyte

Can you get it Certified and then get your Apostille stamp?

I think he is being pretty clear on what the overseas contact needs. Certified has been no where in his language. Also, I don't think he's lost anything in translation, taking it too literally, etc.

I would be on his school like white on rice until I got what I needed.