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What's wrong with "Sabrina the Teenage Witch"? :smile: Seriously, I don't see how that's a case-in-point. Hell, you hear Kings of Leon everywhere now. Good music becomes popular. It happens for a reason. And it doesn't take "angst and anger" to create passion. Have you seen FF live? They (specifically Dave Grohl) have as much passion as any band I've seen.
I never said that good music doesn't become popular - Nirvana had huge sales for "Smells Like Teen Spirit." That isn't my argument at all. My argument was that their music often sounds mass-produced and generic. The generic power ballad is a go-to that they seem to use at least once an album for sales purposes. And, again, Dave was in Nirvana - I never said he wasn't passionate. That doesn't make sense.
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Nirvana is overrated. That is all.
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3TrueFans Nirvana is overrated. That is all.
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3TrueFans Nirvana is overrated. That is all.
As much as I loved their music growing up (and still enjoy them) you're not too far off the mark. However, most great bands ARE overrated, just like the Beatles.
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Angie I never said that good music doesn't become popular - Nirvana had huge sales for "Smells Like Teen Spirit." That isn't my argument at all. My argument was that their music often sounds mass-produced and generic. The generic power ballad is a go-to that they seem to use at least once an album for sales purposes. And, again, Dave was in Nirvana - I never said he wasn't passionate. That doesn't make sense.
i don't know how you can say Nevermind wasn't mass produced and didn't pander to the masses. and you did compare the passion of Nirvana(Kurt) to the Foo Fighters(Dave). "Nirvana was driven by angst and anger - there's no way to compare the passion there with Foo Fighters. " ok so you said there's no way to compare it, but that's what this is.
and you're right, Foo Fighters do appeal more to the masses. My mother likes the song Wheels and that made me cringe when she told me that. But you can't discredit a band because they have mass appeal.
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Angie I never said that good music doesn't become popular - Nirvana had huge sales for "Smells Like Teen Spirit." That isn't my argument at all. My argument was that their music often sounds mass-produced and generic. The generic power ballad is a go-to that they seem to use at least once an album for sales purposes. And, again, Dave was in Nirvana - I never said he wasn't passionate. That doesn't make sense.
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isubeatle i don't know how you can say Nevermind wasn't mass produced and didn't pander to the masses. and you did compare the passion of Nirvana(Kurt) to the Foo Fighters(Dave). "Nirvana was driven by angst and anger - there's no way to compare the passion there with Foo Fighters. " ok so you said there's no way to compare it, but that's what this is.
and you're right, Foo Fighters do appeal more to the masses. My mother likes the song Wheels and that made me cringe when she told me that. But you can't discredit a band because they have mass appeal.
Nirvana kind of created the awareness of that angst in the general population of the youth - Foo Fighters haven't brought any societal self-awareness of that sort. I just said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (and obviously the album attached) was a huge seller, so, again, I understand that it appealed to the masses - but they pretty much created that market. (It's an incredibly valid point if you want to say that they were capitalizing on a genre that others created, but they still brought awareness to it.) You can't say that it was generic when it broke the mold.
Regarding the passion - I never even mentioned Kurt. One more time - Dave was part of Nirvana. It's pretty impossible to contrast the passion of two bands if he was a part of both. You can, however, compare their catalogues and the passion of those. If you don't want to agree with that, that's cool - I am not insulting anyone's opinion (or calling it "crap"), I simply said in my first post that I disagree.
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Angie Nirvana kind of created the awareness of that angst in the general population of the youth - Foo Fighters haven't brought any societal self-awareness of that sort. I just said that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (and obviously the album attached) was a huge seller, so, again, I understand that it appealed to the masses - but they pretty much created that market. (It's an incredibly valid point if you want to say that they were capitalizing on a genre that others created, but they still brought awareness to it.) You can't say that it was generic when it broke the mold.
Regarding the passion - I never even mentioned Kurt. One more time - Dave was part of Nirvana. It's pretty impossible to contrast the passion of two bands if he was a part of both. You can, however, compare their catalogues and the passion of those. If you don't want to agree with that, that's cool - I am not insulting anyone's opinion (or calling it "crap"), I simply said in my first post that I disagree.
jesus, i'm sorry. i wasn't trying to insult you in any way. I totally respect your opinion to disagree. again, sorry i insulted you, it wasn't my intention.
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Al_4_State Dave Grohl is one of the best (and often underrated) individual artists of the past 20 years. It isn't a coincidence that pretty much every band/album he's involved with is excellent. I would honestly argue that his body of work is every bit as impressive as his erstwhile bandmate (who shall remain nameless here).
Yeah, just listen to Bleach then Nevermind...his addition as drummer between the two albums singlehandedly made the difference between Nirvana being a good band and an international phenom.
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josh777 Yeah, just listen to Bleach then Nevermind...his addition as drummer between the two albums singlehandedly made the difference between Nirvana being a good band and an international phenom.
I disagree with this. Grohl didn't have a lot of input in Nirvana. The thing that changed was Kurt wanting to be a little poppier. It also made a huge difference that Bleach was recorded for $600 on a small label like Sub Pop and Nevermind was on Geffen DGC with a larger financial backing. Grohl copied a lot of Chad Channing's drum parts for Nevermind since most of the songs were written before Grohl joined the group.
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isubeatle jesus, i'm sorry. i wasn't trying to insult you in any way. I totally respect your opinion to disagree. again, sorry i insulted you, it wasn't my intention.
No offense taken - I just wanted to make sure I wasn't insulting anyone by disagreeing.
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Cymon I disagree with this. Grohl didn't have a lot of input in Nirvana. The thing that changed was Kurt wanting to be a little poppier. It also made a huge difference that Bleach was recorded for $600 on a small label like Sub Pop and Nevermind was on Geffen DGC with a larger financial backing. Grohl copied a lot of Chad Channing's drum parts for Nevermind since most of the songs were written before Grohl joined the group.
I'm aware of this history but there is no doubt Grohl's drumming is superior. Songs written before him or not, Cobain wasn't dictating drumming style...that's all Grohl.
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Grohl is a phenomenal drummer. I own Bleach, just as I own every other Nirvana album, and his presence made a huge difference. He didn't write the songs, but he had a huge impact on the sound. Krist Novoselic on the other hand... Not to slam the guy, but he played some of the easiest bass lines of all time. Only Dee Dee Ramone had it easier.
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Al_4_State Grohl is a phenomenal drummer. I own Bleach, just as I own every other Nirvana album, and his presence made a huge difference. He didn't write the songs, but he had a huge impact on the sound. Krist Novoselic on the other hand... Not to slam the guy, but he played some of the easiest bass lines of all time. Only Dee Dee Ramone had it easier.
Complexity doesn't matter. Novoselic played what the song needed. It's not like Cobain was a great guitar player either but I would rather listen to him than Joe Satriani any day.
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Cymon Complexity doesn't matter. Novoselic played what the song needed. It's not like Cobain was a great guitar player either but I would rather listen to him than Joe Satriani any day.
I agree completely. I was just talking about personal impact on the sound of the band. Grohl has a unique style, whereas Novoselic could have been replaced, from a sonic stadpoint anyways (I believe he was pretty much Kurt's best friend so I'm guessing chemistry w/out him would have been bad). That's all. Simple is fine. But it's also very easy to recreate.
