Re: GF's employer making her take PTO for yesterday...
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Originally Posted by
CloneIce
Its not right of course, but most businesses will do whatever they can to make/save money whether it is right or not. Especially now.
Why isnt it right? If you dont work you shouldnt get paid. For a lot of people it doesnt really matter because they have a pile of PTO to use. Days like that are what PTO is for.
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consider her lucky to have a job.
I really need to start my own business
Re: GF's employer making her take PTO for yesterday...
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Originally Posted by
Cyclonepride
Same thing here. Nothing strange about it. Not sure how you can expect to get a free day's pay for no work without using vacation.
Because some of us were able to get to work if necessary and shouldn't be penalized for those who couldn't.
This is an abnormal practice. I'm getting paid for our offices having been shut down yesterday.
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So was her place of employment open or no? If they were then I'd say it's right to make people take vacation or PTO if they couldn't get in. If they were closed then I don't know how they could make you take PTO.
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My former employer would occasionally close the office early, open late, or just be closed. I worked there for 8 years and they probably had short days maybe 9 times and closed completely 3 or 4 times. Not very much. We got paid for those days and didn't have to take vacation. My current employer was closed on Wednesday and that has NEVER happened. They got paid too. I was out of town though, so I missed probably my only chance at a snow day!
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cloneluke80
consider her lucky to have a job.
I really need to start my own business
So you can hear people whine about not getting a free day off?
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Re: GF's employer making her take PTO for yesterday...
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Originally Posted by
3TrueFans
So was her place of employment open or no? If they were then I'd say it's right to make people take vacation or PTO if they couldn't get in. If they were closed then I don't know how they could make you take PTO.
+1
If it's a day I'm normally scheduled to work and I'm ready, willing, and able to work, and you tell me I have to stay home, why should it be a vacation day? What if I only had one day of vacation before the end of the year, or none? Lots of places have disciplinary measures for exhausting your paid leave.
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maui6651
What makes that not right? Was work done? No. Why should the employee be paid?
I'm salaried and have to use vacation for yesterday. It would have been great to get the day off and still get paid, but I'm not angry that it didn't work out that way. For the company I work for (somewhere around 8,000 people in CR), that would have been millions of dollars that they'd be giving away.
Why is that not right? If the employee has no option to work, they should not have to use their own precious personal leave when the company isn't even open and there is no option to work.
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Originally Posted by
kingcy
Why isnt it right? If you dont work you shouldnt get paid. For a lot of people it doesnt really matter because they have a pile of PTO to use. Days like that are what PTO is for.
Incorrect. PL days are for personal leave for whatever reason, not because the company doesn't let you work because they are too pansy to open their office.
Alot of people don't have a pile of PTO days to use. I work my butt off and get 15 a year, soon 20, and I consider them precious and my property to use as I please.
Now, if the company gave you an option to make up those 8 hours working late... that would be fair. Forced PL? ripoff.
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Originally Posted by
CloneIce
Why is that not right? If the employee has no option to work, they should not have to use their own precious personal leave when the company isn't even open and there is no option to work.
Agreed.
There's some confusion going on between not coming to work, and work not being open.
I seem to be one of the luckier ones - work shut down and it went paid. But if it were open, I probably would've been here, or understood that it was my choice to take time off.
But I side with those who think that if work wasn't open - that's not on the employee to take time off.
How does it work if you don't have any PTO left? I'm sure many don't.
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Originally Posted by
CloneIce
Its not right of course, but most businesses will do whatever they can to make/save money whether it is right or not. Especially now.
Can't get something for nothing. No work, no pay or use the PTO. I'm cool with that.
Why should the business lose more money for something out of its control?
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akclone
Why should the business lose more money for something out of its control?
Why should the employee? At least the employer has some control, they're responsible for closing operations. The employee has absolutely no control.
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What was the original contract/agreement with the employee (your wife) and the employer? That should tell you what's covered and allowed regarding all types of leave. Also, is she an exempt or non-exempt employee? That likely makes a difference, too.
Whining and complaining after something happens means you weren't prepared for what might happen. Be a good employee and find out what's required and expected of you before you accept a job.
Rules aren't personal, but employees sometimes try to make them so.
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akclone
Can't get something for nothing. No work, no pay or use the PTO. I'm cool with that.
Why should the business lose more money for something out of its control?
Was the power to the office out or something?
I am sure there were plenty of businesses open during the storm. Unless they were compleltely physically unable to access the building and open it for any employees who could make it in, then it wasn't out of its control.
I am basing this on the assumption that the employee is salary and not compensated by hourly wages. That would be a different story.